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Pemalite said:
Oneeee-Chan!!! said:

It's about iPhone 8.

Is A11 SOC more powerful than PS4 ?

CPU probably yes.
GPU definitely no.

errrr........



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While Apple may currently be a threat to dedicated gaming system manufacturers, I don't think this will last forever. It is too intense a position for starters and there's only so much you can do with their set-up until it becomes boring to the consumer. I think Apple's reign over gaming will eventually end, and it might happen in a dramatic fashion as well.

Easy come easy go.



Guys, Apple entered the gaming industry with the advent of the app store. lol. They're the owners of the number one gaming device on the planet RIGHT NOW.

So my question is... why would they release ANOTHER product to sit under our TVs that wouldn't even begin to compete with another product that is selling way, way better?



AlfredoTurkey said:

Guys, Apple entered the gaming industry with the advent of the app store. lol. They're the owners of the number one gaming device on the planet RIGHT NOW.

So my question is... why would they release ANOTHER product to sit under our TVs that wouldn't even begin to compete with another product that is selling way, way better?

Good point. Circumvention. After they lost the PC space other opportunities opened up with cellphones.



ebw said:
sethnintendo said:

Why would Bungie develop a game solely for the Mac in the 90s?  No one gamed on Macs in the 90s and barely anyone does now.  Everyone went to PCs during the late 80s and 90s.  Back then it would take a game a year or more to port to Mac (if ever) because there was such a low install base. 

Is this facetious?  Bungie was a very prominent exception to this rule.  The first time Bungie demonstrated Halo publicly was at MacWorld Expo in 1999.  For pretty much the entire decade before that they were a Mac-first developer (Minotaur, Pathways into Darkness, Marathon).

I didnt know they were mac only before Halo. Interesting. 



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S.T.A.G.E. said:
AlfredoTurkey said:

Guys, Apple entered the gaming industry with the advent of the app store. lol. They're the owners of the number one gaming device on the planet RIGHT NOW.

So my question is... why would they release ANOTHER product to sit under our TVs that wouldn't even begin to compete with another product that is selling way, way better?

Good point. Circumvention. After they lost the PC space other opportunities opened up with cellphones.

Didn't realise that Apple owned Android?



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Pemalite said:

AlfredoTurkey said:

Guys, Apple entered the gaming industry with the advent of the app store. lol. They're the owners of the number one gaming device on the planet RIGHT NOW.

Didn't realise that Apple owned Android?

They don't, and depending how you look at it, they don't have to for his statement to be true. Reading the article, you'd realize that not even Google owns android, and in terms of revenues from games, Google doesn't come close.



Pemalite said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Good point. Circumvention. After they lost the PC space other opportunities opened up with cellphones.

Didn't realise that Apple owned Android?

I think the whole point was finding some success with games in general. The cellphone market is quite a threat and even Nintendo took notice.



Don't see it happening, or being very successful if it does. The console market, as large as it is, can realistically only sustain a finite number of platforms, and three major consoles at once is pretty much the limit before the sales start to become too small for a platform to be competitive. In addition, Apple doesn't exactly have the best reputation when it comes to gaming, so a lot of people would likely be vary of them putting out a console.

The only way I see this happening is if Microsoft steps down from the console market, which would free enough space for a new company to try their hand at it, and I doubt that'll happen any time soon either.



AlfredoTurkey said:

Guys, Apple entered the gaming industry with the advent of the app store. lol. They're the owners of the number one gaming device on the planet RIGHT NOW.

So my question is... why would they release ANOTHER product to sit under our TVs that wouldn't even begin to compete with another product that is selling way, way better?

Maybe read the OP? "why would Apple do that" is a tired argument, when they're getting into all sorts of markets like watches, headphones and cars, the idea of them entering the console business shouldn't be shocking. Consoles and the products they sell aren't mutually exclusive. Apple TV can serve as a true console with some beefier specs. Why is Apple willing to spend billions on exclusive TV shows when they have all of the streaming services on their devices already, and just leaving consoles aside for a moment: is it me or is getting 100% of the revenue better than the 30% cut they get now?

I think you should stop looking at it from console war goggles, but realize Apple seriously is lacking a capable, competitive device under the TV.

Soundwave said:

Apple isn't interested in gaming, it's not big enough of a market for them. 15-20 million consoles/year is small potatoes for them, they ship that many iPhones in a slow quarter. They could easily compete in this sector though they would get tons of third party support and they can easily out market Sony/Nintendo/MS.

AppleTV ships 6-10 million/year and Apple seems content with that, AppleTV is not a major product for them, though it could be if they really wanted to push it. 

It's not needed though IMO, too much competition in gaming is actually a bad thing IMO, platforms need room to breathe in order to grow if you have like 5 different platforms it just creates oversaturation in the market and confusion among consumers. It's not ideal, game platforms are not just regular products they are a format in effect, having too many is not good for the business as what you basically end up with is weakened reach for all of them fighting over a small market. And for developers it's not good to have to make like 5 different versions of each game. 

This is another thing most gamers mistakenly repeat. Of course sales are gonna be lower than smartphones, because you sell consoles to a household, often with multiple people, it's not an individual product like smartphones, they realize that better than you. TV sales are lower than smartphones, there is less demand for them. Besides, it's not all about selling single hardware and thats it, Sony is making more money than they ever did during the PS2 era. PS4 hardware sales help, but a big contribution to that is PSN.