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Given Nintendo's indie support, there indie support could fill out their library when bigger 3rd party titles fail to show up. Either i'm happy with this .



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routsounmanman said:
guiduc said:

I think the handheld part is what attracts players to play indie games on NSW. Console boots up fast, so you can play small games that you can turn off at any time and bring with you anywhere. Just like mobile.

True. Who in their right mind would own both a PS4 / Xbone and a Switch and not get the latter version of an Indie title?

I'd imagine that people will hold out until it's free with PS+ or Games with Gold, or until it's <$5. PS4/X1 space is becoming more like Steam where people turn their nose (unjustifiably sometimes) at indies at full price.



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NATO said:
Ganoncrotch said:
90m X1's and PS4's... not to mention the PC, but games are selling more on a System with 5million users?
I'm confused as to how this can be true.

What other games can they buy?

In all seriousness, people on ps4/xbo buy exclusives and multiplats, and mostly wait to get indies free on ps+ and gwg

There are over 100 titles on the eshop right now just in the EU region store.



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outlawauron said:
routsounmanman said:

True. Who in their right mind would own both a PS4 / Xbone and a Switch and not get the latter version of an Indie title?

I'd imagine that people will hold out until it's free with PS+ or Games with Gold, or until it's <$5. PS4/X1 space is becoming more like Steam where people turn their nose (unjustifiably sometimes) at indies at full price.

Sorry, not that knowledgeable with PS+ and other paid services. That would make sense.



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NATO said:
Ganoncrotch said:
90m X1's and PS4's... not to mention the PC, but games are selling more on a System with 5million users?
I'm confused as to how this can be true.

What other games can they buy?

In all seriousness, people on ps4/xbo buy exclusives and multiplats, and mostly wait to get indies free on ps+ and gwg

There are already 20 games that scored 80%+ on metacritic. That's pretty good for a console's first six months. Many more good games are coming this year like Rocket League, Steamworld Dig 2, Stardew Valley, Super Mario Odyssey, Xenoblade Chronicles 2, NBA2K18, FIFA 18, Skyrim, Axiom Verge, Rime, Pokkén Tournament DX, LA Noire, etc. 



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SpokenTruth said:

It is quite interesting when people that are not Nintendo gamers or fans somehow have expert knowledge about the Switch library and the buying habits of Switch owners and it's always from a negative perspective.

QFT

Pavolink said:
Bandorr said:

A cheap indie that is best played on a handheld, that has little competition. It is quite obvious.

I, among many others, are desperate for something to play on the switch. Thus we pick up games like this or wonder boy. When in a couple years they would never have been considered.

Same reason I'm considering DB xenoverse 2. Despite the fact it cost more, the dlc will cost more, it will have a lower framerate most of the time, and its resolution is worse. I'm literally paying more, getting less and I'm still wondering it because it is a handheld device.

The only desperation comes from people lacking of excuses to downplay Switch success.

Touché.

 

I just got a switch this week (finally). I bought with Zelda and Mario Kart. I know that those 2 will make me busy for many months, way after Odyssey release, wich is another game that I want and we not even past it's first year in the market, so many things are yet to be shown.

I am really failing to see what is this urgency to get  any game available for Switch that people are talking about...

 

Obs: I am also considering getting metal slug, really loved this franchise in the arcade times, now having a chance to play on the go is something that entices me. Note: I am CONSIDERING I am not in a urge to get this bc I need something to play on Switch, nogamezzz yada yada, just to make clear.

 

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SpokenTruth said:
It is quite interesting when people that are not Nintendo gamers or fans somehow have expert knowledge about the Switch library and the buying habits of Switch owners and it's always from a negative perspective.

I know, right? I mean, I have a Switch and a PS4, so maybe I'm buying Switch games because I want it? Not because there isn't anything else? XD.

In fact, I think the latest PS4 output was far from stellar tbh. I'm playing Dark Souls 3 because I don't feel anything new is worth buy it. Except for some indie games which I prefer to play on Switch because of portability. Well, I enjoyed the first Destiny (I know it's divisive but I feel that gameplay is rock solid and fun), so that might change. 



Hopefully niche games can find a home on the Switch.
It may just prove to be the savior of some studios.



Volterra_90 said:
SpokenTruth said:
It is quite interesting when people that are not Nintendo gamers or fans somehow have expert knowledge about the Switch library and the buying habits of Switch owners and it's always from a negative perspective.

I know, right? I mean, I have a Switch and a PS4, so maybe I'm buying Switch games because I want it? Not because there isn't anything else? XD.

In fact, I think the latest PS4 output was far from stellar tbh. I'm playing Dark Souls 3 because I don't feel anything new is worth buy it. Except for some indie games which I prefer to play on Switch because of portability. Well, I enjoyed the first Destiny (I know it's divisive but I feel that gameplay is rock solid and fun), so that might change. 

I think a part of the problem here is that people are misrepresenting the argument (both some of those making it, and some arguing against it). It's not that there isn't "anything else", or that Switch users are" desperate" (both frankly hyperbolic) it's just that there's a smaller general pool of great options. The larger that pool gets (which it will as the console ages), the more spread out the sales will be (attach ratios increase considerably slower than a console's library does). There's a limit to how far that will go though, and at its most extreme you end up with stuff like the appstore where thousands of great apps are literally drowned in shit.

We know from Nintendo's own sales figures that the Switch's overall attach ratio has so far been fairly normal (relative to install base size and growth rate), and that 60%+ of Switch software sales are from 3 games (Zelda, MK8D, and Arms). So if Switch users don't appear to be buying an unusual number of games, yet many indie games are selling far better on the Switch despite being part of a minority of a relatively normal sales trend on a new (if so far very successful) console, it's natural to wonder why. As things stand, the 'less competition is letting some great games flourish on the Switch' seems like a logical explanation.

This isn't a new argument either. The same logic can be (and was) used as a potential explanation for why early cross-gen titles had heavily inflated attach ratios on the PS4 and X1, or why indies initially got so much attention on them too. It wasn't a negative or excuse for them, just an explanation. When something seemingly odd happens, people like to work out why. Problems arise when others decide to add their own spin to what should be a fairly neutral discussion.