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Just saw the movie yesterday, very well done. Sounds are great, acting is great. Right off the bat the movie was good and set the tone very early and in a more mature way than almost all other horror films. Man I love R-rated movies!

The best thing about IT was the movie didn't rely heavily on the horror elements, instead it felt like Stand By Me (Stephen King again) with horror elements to it.



UltimateGamer1982 said:

The conjuring 1 & 2, insidious 1-4, Annabelle 1 & Annebelle creation, don't breathe, it follows, get out have all been amazing horror movies. Now we have IT, jeepers creepers 3, mother, whick all look fantastic.

Go horror genre!!

 

Edit: Lights out is also a very good horror movie as is the witch. Check out all of these if you love horror. 

The conjuring 1 was great, 2nd not so much. Insidious are ok, especially the first one. Anabelle 1 was kind of a dissapointment (had high expectations because of the conjuring), the 2nd one was better. I just saw it follows right now (saw people recommend it here) it was meh... i wanna watch dont breathe next, and dont remember seeing get out before, ill look into it. Lights out was ok-ish

 

i have very high expectations for it, since horror movies are not what they used to be. The last one that I really enjoyed was the Conjuring. Everything else has been kind of meh to ok, and few exceptions.



I enjoyed "It" even if I can see its flaws. I would have had a few less jump scares as what makes Pennywise really work is the sense of unease and dread when he's around. Glad it did well as showing I went to was packed with people, and at only $35 million budget it stands to make huge profits.



They did remove the gangbang scene from the book?



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numberwang said:
They did remove the gangbang scene from the book?

Lol that scene will NEVER be in any film adaptation of IT, ever. Mabe if they made a porn parody of IT, sure.



I liked IT, but it wasn't all that scary honestly. It was fun, and funny, and charming, but not scary. I'm curious how Hollywoo will interpret this and use it as influence for future horror films



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Hollywood took horror by the hair and dragged it on mud. They haven't been able to create any actual 4.5/5 stars quality horror for a LONG time. Yes, there's been a few standouts in different sub genres (Evil Within, Insidious, Sinister, The first Paranormal Activity) which led to some sort of renaissance, but they have a hard time making something shocking/captivating. I blame it on the American Culture and thei industry as whole being very keen of cash grabs and cow milking. Fortunately, it seems like the former mediocrity brought to the "horror" genre (Saw, Paranormal Activity 2-Infinitum, Prom Night, Reboots such as Friday the 13th, etc) are slowly fading away, and the "super hero" genre is thriving with these sort of films that appeal to teenagers and audiences with no patience, audiences that crave special effects and accessible storylines.

Hopefully "IT" and that child murder scene make enough of an impact, to lead horror back into the shocking and innovative genre it used to be.

Meanwhile, I'll keep watching old and new Eastern Asian horror films such as "The Wailing", "Infection", "A Tale of Two Sisters", etc. South Koreans and Japanese directors are much better suited for the genre.



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Kuksenkov said:
Hollywood took horror by the hair and dragged it on mud. They haven't been able to create any actual 4.5/5 stars quality horror for a LONG time. Yes, there's been a few standouts in different sub genres (Evil Within, Insidious, Sinister, The first Paranormal Activity) which led to some sort of renaissance, but they have a hard time making something shocking/captivating. I blame it on the American Culture and thei industry as whole being very keen of cash grabs and cow milking. Fortunately, it seems like the former mediocrity brought to the "horror" genre (Saw, Paranormal Activity 2-Infinitum, Prom Night, Reboots such as Friday the 13th, etc) are slowly fading away, and the "super hero" genre is thriving with these sort of films that appeal to teenagers and audiences with no patience, audiences that crave special effects and accessible storylines.

Hopefully "IT" and that child murder scene make enough of an impact, to lead horror back into the shocking and innovative genre it used to be.

Meanwhile, I'll keep watching old and new Eastern Asian horror films such as "The Wailing", "Infection", "A Tale of Two Sisters", etc. South Koreans and Japanese directors are much better suited for the genre.

I can't say I agree with you on the points that horror films aren't great today, or that the Japanese and Koreans are somehow doing things better.

I'm going to tackle American vs. Japanese horror first. Because I have yet to see a Japanese horror film that doesn't look amateurish. American re-makes of Japanese horror movies tend to be vastly superior. The Grudge is a good example. The Japanese Grudge not only lacks tension and any big payoff moments, but the plot is very flat, and it has a very haphazard and yet repetetive feel to it. Japanese and Korean horror movies are generally on par with B-horror films in the west. The Grudge is also not considered very high up on the scale when it comes to Western horror films for the last 15 years, but it is still a massive improvement over the Japanese version. In fact, the Japanese horror film genre is comparable to the B-film genre in the west, they just try to cram a bunch of fucked-up stuff into it, and say "there, horror!" and it doesn't end up being scary, more silly and/or disgusting (aka cheesy) - much like Western B-horror films.

 

The horror genre has improved drastically since the era of Friday the 13th; those old films are hardly scary anymore. First of all, visual effects and cinematography have generally improved a great deal (there are exceptions of course, B-horror monster films like Sharknado, which use bad CG) - but a lot of old horror films have terrible effects, and even those with brilliant effects like The Thing, still have a lot of poorly done stuff - the slime and gore were done well, but when they make it walk, it looks like a puppet being pulled along by cables.
 

Plotting has also improved a great deal helping for a much better build in tension. Many of the horror films of the 70s and 80s are simple string alongs of - this is how this guy/girl dies, now this is how this guy/girl dies, now this is how this guy/girl dies - and this is how the remaining people kill the villain. While this element does remain true, it is much more intricately woven into the plot, and a lot of the time (like in Conjuring and Insidious) it's not even used, because the plot and character development are woven to such a point where you do not want any characters to die. Plots are much more varied today than they were in the past. In addition, less predictable than in past films where you can easily guess when everyone is going to die long before it happens.

Dialogue and writing are generally done better these days, with exposition being far better delivered - almost always through revelation while keeping a sufficient amount shrouded in mystery (horror films of the 70s and 80s often did this terribly), and acting also tends to be a lot better and more natural feeling than in the past, where it was often very stilted performances; comparable to B-movies of today. HUGE improvements in the field of audio have occurred in the genre which act with the plot elements to create very great tension.

The usage of audio and improved plot builds much better tension than ever before. It is integrated very well with the plot, creating a sense of unease, and on the border of panic as payoff moments approach - and the payoff moments, thanks to improved plotting, tend to hit at better times. This is something older horror films almost completely lacked - many people took cues from Hitchcock in this era, but I don't think they quite understood what he wasdoing, more like "wow, that track he used made me feel tense at this moment, let's make another track like that one)" - they knew what it did, but didn't really grasp why or how. These days, understanding of audio in horror is MUCH more widespread and the knowledge is far more deeply developed than ever before. There's a lot more in the way of resources put into audio design.

We're currently at a time where some of the best horror films of all time are being created. Super hero films aren't ruining horror in any way, and neither do the same forces determine how all the movies will be. Horror films are completely different, and if anything, more of a rebellion against those types of cookie cutter films.



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