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I usually take peoples opinions of horror with a grain of salt. I said it before that while I love horror as a genre, none of it scares me. Mainly because aspired to be like Rick Baker and so I watched slasher films and another horror like Exorcist and a shit load more as a kid. When I was a little older I was doing gory makeup for self-made haunted houses. Worked in pro haunted houses. No, I never went beyond that because the demand for practical stuff dwindled. Anyway, what I am getting at is why I don't scare from horror films and people thought Conjuring was good when it was shit. Same with the sequel.  So much horror is so predictable, even in games like Until Dawn. I was bored through the whole game. It was just so easy to predict the jump scares that even tho I never played or seen much aside from a trailer from the game. The praise for this film is high but again I took it with a grain of salt..until the other day. Someone posted a couple clips of the movie. The opening with Georgie. Brutal. That's what sold me on IT, because this film is telling me it doesn't give a shit and isn't afraid to show something like a kid brutally killed. That's when I know a film has potential. So I am going to see it Tuesday.



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Well deserved. Since Wan / Paranormal Activity the horror genre has been thriving. Franchises like Insidious, Conjuring and even stand alone movies like Mama are making more money than ever before.

Having said that though, none of the above are any good. The first Conjuring was solid though.

Having see It, it really is the best lf the bunch for me.

Plus you have the fact that back to college movies are a thing. Plus last month has been the dead for new releases.



They definitely hyped it up, so it's not surprising. It's also a decent film, so the drop next week should be around the average, about a 50% drop. Personally, I'd probably give it a 75. It was fun and had good acting. It just used too many modern horror cliches (jump scares, with loud music stings) to be considered a true masterpiece/classic, though there was still some good atmospheric moments.



VGPolyglot said:
It really makes me wish that box office success was determined by ticket sales rather than gross, as inflation makes it impossible to compare between different eras.

Lot of flaws with that though as well. Less population before which makes older movies look like it had a lot more success as a % of the population watched it.

 

Movie theatre food and tickets were also very cheap compared to wages, and as you may know wages haven't increased at the same rate.

Lastly people have options nowadays like pirating or buying, so people could still be watching it, and it could be the most successful film ever, but the numbers won't show it.



Farsala said:
VGPolyglot said:
It really makes me wish that box office success was determined by ticket sales rather than gross, as inflation makes it impossible to compare between different eras.

Lot of flaws with that though as well. Less population before which makes older movies look like it had a lot more success as a % of the population watched it.

 

Movie theatre food and tickets were also very cheap compared to wages, and as you may know wages haven't increased at the same rate.

Lastly people have options nowadays like pirating or buying, so people could still be watching it, and it could be the most successful film ever, but the numbers won't show it.

I don't think your concerns factor into what he said. He's talking number of tickets sold period. Not compared to the population at the time. Also, people had options back then, too.  

 

The only real problem with what he's suggesting is that it doesn't factor in a films budget. A movie could sell half the tickets of something like Ghostbusters 2016, which was a flop, and still be a success since it had a budget 1/4 the size.



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thismeintiel said:
Farsala said:

Lot of flaws with that though as well. Less population before which makes older movies look like it had a lot more success as a % of the population watched it.

 

Movie theatre food and tickets were also very cheap compared to wages, and as you may know wages haven't increased at the same rate.

Lastly people have options nowadays like pirating or buying, so people could still be watching it, and it could be the most successful film ever, but the numbers won't show it.

I don't think your concerns factor into what he said. He's talking number of tickets sold period. Not compared to the population at the time. Also, people had options back then, too.  

 

The only real problem with what he's suggesting is that it doesn't factor in a films budget. A movie could sell half the tickets of something like Ghostbusters 2016, which was a flop, and still be a success since it had a budget 1/4 the size.

What he suggests is like the video game industry, which we have seen is quite flawed, especially for cheap japanese games. IE: game sells 1m is a success

People couldn't really pirate back then though, or was at least very hard and not worth it. Would be like pirating bubblegum, chump change for the average buyer.



SegataSanshiro said:

I usually take peoples opinions of horror with a grain of salt. I said it before that while I love horror as a genre, none of it scares me. Mainly because aspired to be like Rick Baker and so I watched slasher films and another horror like Exorcist and a shit load more as a kid. When I was a little older I was doing gory makeup for self-made haunted houses. Worked in pro haunted houses. No, I never went beyond that because the demand for practical stuff dwindled. Anyway, what I am getting at is why I don't scare from horror films and people thought Conjuring was good when it was shit. Same with the sequel.  So much horror is so predictable, even in games like Until Dawn. I was bored through the whole game. It was just so easy to predict the jump scares that even tho I never played or seen much aside from a trailer from the game. The praise for this film is high but again I took it with a grain of salt..until the other day. Someone posted a couple clips of the movie. The opening with Georgie. Brutal. That's what sold me on IT, because this film is telling me it doesn't give a shit and isn't afraid to show something like a kid brutally killed. That's when I know a film has potential. So I am going to see it Tuesday.

Jump scares are the worst idea in horror.  Startling me doesn't make me afraid of your guy in makeup.  I'll always take a psychological horror over this bland, repetitive, "loud noise spook" nonsense.  I want to be afraid of a villan or impressed by the 'horror' on screen, not be mindly annoyed by a predictable loud bang.



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The problem I have with "It" is that the more I hear about all it's different versions the more it sounds like a confused piece of ideas mashed together. There's the novel which is super fucking long, has a child gangnbang scene, weird as lore, and a bunch of other shit. There's the original made for TV movie which is long as fuck, boring, and has really inconsistent rules for the It monster(which I think is a problem with the book too). And then there's this movie which sounds like it's good only because it doesn't really tackle the weird shit that It is known for.

It makes me turned off from the franchise even though I think the basic concept is cool. I remember as a kid I watched the It TV movie and it was just boring as shit. Reading a long book or watching a movie which apparently isn't close to being as weird or eccentric as the book, meh. Maybe I'll watch it, maybe I won't. Opinions on these 3 iterations seem really mixed anyways.

I just don't know what to believe about these series. I don't know which fans to trust. And i'm too lazy to go to a movie that i don't have faith in. 



Thechalkblock said:
Aeolus451 said:
I'm glad it's doing so well. Horror films need to back a comeback in general.

Speaking of horror making a comeback, have you seen It Follows? One of the best horror movies I've seen.

I did, it was pretty cool. Did you see the Babadook?



According to Box Office Mojo, it's at $117M domestically, and $180M worldwide. That's insane for just 3 days for a Rated R horror film. It's well in track to possibly be the second highest grossing Rated R film ever, behind only Deadpool.



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