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Soundwave on 11 September 2017
LadyJasmine said:
Soundwave said:

More people want to live in California, it's a general migration from rural areas to cities, no freaking young person wants to live in the middle of buttfuck nowhere, USA with a bunch of old people. 

Lol Cali has a ton of old people to you know if you ever been ^^^^ lol 

The system is the EC not the popular vote... and I doubt you care if Hillary won in the same way Trump did...

So to suggest she is vindicated by the popular vote just shows the delusional nature of Hillary fans. 

Cali also has 55 electoral votes so it has its say really?

Like with that state alone Democrats have to get only 215 more EC votes to win any election.

So imo democrats need to take some responsibility and stop bitching with sour grapes.  

I'm not a Hilary fan, but like most sane people, I preferred her over Trump.

I'm over the "responsibility" thing though. IMO Trump is a very beatable candidate and the fact is IMO he's going to have a hard time holding all those votes in "blue wall". All it takes is him losing 77,000 or a few of those people choosing not to show up next time and he's toast. 

Republicans were going to win one eventually anyway, but I think generally speaking the sea tide is turning against their overall politics. 

They have lost the popular vote in what? Like 4/6 last elections? If that's their long term strategy, all I have to say is ... overall the country is shifting more to the left. Trump IMO is more of a last gasp death spasm from people who are angry about that reality but are slowly but surely becoming noticably outnumbered.  



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LadyJasmine on 11 September 2017
Soundwave said:
LadyJasmine said:

Lol Cali has a ton of old people to you know if you ever been ^^^^ lol 

The system is the EC not the popular vote... and I doubt you care if Hillary won in the same way Trump did...

So to suggest she is vindicated by the popular vote just shows the delusional nature of Hillary fans. 

Cali also has 55 electoral votes so it has its say really?

Like with that state alone Democrats have to get only 215 more EC votes to win any election.

So imo democrats need to take some responsibility and stop bitching with sour grapes.  

I'm not a Hilary fan, but like most sane people, I preferred her over Trump.

I'm over the "responsibility" thing though. IMO Trump is a very beatable candidate and the fact is IMO he's going to have a hard time holding all those votes in "blue wall". All it takes is him losing 77,000 or a few of those people choosing not to show up next time and he's toast. 

Republicans were going to win one eventually anyway, but I think generally speaking the sea tide is turning against their overall politics. 

They have lost the popular vote in what? Like 4/6 last elections? If that's their long term strategy, all I have to say is ... overall the country is shifting more to the left. Trump IMO is more of a last gasp death spasm from people who are angry about them but are slowly but surely becoming noticably outnumbered.  

 

 

People want left wing leaders but dont want people like Hillary...

 

it is simple as that... 



Soundwave on 11 September 2017
LadyJasmine said:
Soundwave said:

I'm not a Hilary fan, but like most sane people, I preferred her over Trump.

I'm over the "responsibility" thing though. IMO Trump is a very beatable candidate and the fact is IMO he's going to have a hard time holding all those votes in "blue wall". All it takes is him losing 77,000 or a few of those people choosing not to show up next time and he's toast. 

Republicans were going to win one eventually anyway, but I think generally speaking the sea tide is turning against their overall politics. 

They have lost the popular vote in what? Like 4/6 last elections? If that's their long term strategy, all I have to say is ... overall the country is shifting more to the left. Trump IMO is more of a last gasp death spasm from people who are angry about them but are slowly but surely becoming noticably outnumbered.  

 

 

People want left wing leaders but dont want people like Hillary...

 

it is simple as that... 

Aside from the majority that voted 3 million times more for her, sure. 

Look you can point out flaws in her campaign and there were certainly several, but the "no one wanted Hillary" thing is a bit of a lie. 

As for the book tour, I get it. She wants to make a few bucks, and now is a decent time because it won't intefere with 2018. She's a private citizen, and like any private citizen she's within her rights to seek out commercial oppurtunities that she deems fit. I don't really get worked up about that, if I had spent 4 combined years of my life basically running for president and not getting it (lol), a couple of million bucks from a book deal is something I wouldn't pass on. It's fair game, so long as she fades into the background as 2018 rolls around. 



eva01beserk on 11 September 2017
Soundwave said:
LadyJasmine said:

Lol Cali has a ton of old people to you know if you ever been ^^^^ lol 

The system is the EC not the popular vote... and I doubt you care if Hillary won in the same way Trump did...

So to suggest she is vindicated by the popular vote just shows the delusional nature of Hillary fans. 

Cali also has 55 electoral votes so it has its say really?

Like with that state alone Democrats have to get only 215 more EC votes to win any election.

So imo democrats need to take some responsibility and stop bitching with sour grapes.  

I'm not a Hilary fan, but like most sane people, I preferred her over Trump.

I'm over the "responsibility" thing though. IMO Trump is a very beatable candidate and the fact is IMO he's going to have a hard time holding all those votes in "blue wall". All it takes is him losing 77,000 or a few of those people choosing not to show up next time and he's toast. 

Republicans were going to win one eventually anyway, but I think generally speaking the sea tide is turning against their overall politics. 

They have lost the popular vote in what? Like 4/6 last elections? If that's their long term strategy, all I have to say is ... overall the country is shifting more to the left. Trump IMO is more of a last gasp death spasm from people who are angry about that reality but are slowly but surely becoming noticably outnumbered.  

 

that might not be the case very soon. 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-02/five-reasons-why-america-about-become-very-conservative-country



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eva01beserk on 11 September 2017
Soundwave said:
outlawauron said:

Because California. The big states are brought down a peg with the electoral college. It gives importance to smaller and medium sized states.

More people want to live in California, it's a general migration from rural areas to cities, no freaking young person wants to live in the middle of buttfuck nowhere, USA with a bunch of old people. 

 

I cant say Im in the majority, but I hated jersey and now live in PA in a peacefull rural town with a huge yard, plenty of parking, no trafic, precticaly no crime with like 2 cops per town,I own my own home and only 27. It might be the new shit actually.

http://www.npr.org/2017/08/27/546391430/texas-becoming-a-magnet-for-conservatives-fleeing-liberal-states-like-california



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eva01beserk on 11 September 2017
Nem said:
barneystinson69 said:

And all men talk as if women are goddesses are to be cherished; give me a break! Hillary more than took advantage of that tape to gain an edge, but then whines like a baby when the same happens to her.

Except the tape was actually true and the email's didn't have anything? It was the same during the campign and tbh this is partially why she lost. People unilaterally deciding she is crooked without any proof whatsoever. It's crazy talk. You don't even know why you think she's crooked. People repeated the lie so many times until they believed it. It's insane!

The tape was true of what? That he could touch a woman and they where ok with it? Thats just awfull.

Even if the emails had nothing why she deleted them? But anyways, the main issue was her server at home wich was a security violation. ANd I belive the previous guy who did that was senteced to jail and she was not even given a warning.



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eva01beserk on 11 September 2017
Nem said:
LadyJasmine said:

You do forget she was running against Donald Trump? So really, in the end, she had all the ability and advantages to win but it was her lack of abilities that made her lose? 

The fact is she can't face up to the humiliating fact she lost to Trump and it bitching about everyone else hurt her.

If she had any shame and self-respect she should shut up and obscure into the dust bin of history where she belongs. 

 

I am sick and tired of people like you making excuses for her...you should be like you failed us Hillary... 

What makes you think i don't think it's her fault? She had a messaging problem. That is why she lost. The world is full of simpletons. If you don't have a clear and simple message you won't reach more. 

With that said, it is also hard to argue that the nothing burger email leaks damaged her numbers wich might've been enough to tell a different story. But, it's not something we will ever know.

And quite honestly i'm also sick of people spreading lies like many people spread alegations about her without any proof that ended up beeing false. I don't think it's ok to condemn the innocent and give an out of jail free card to the guilty, in this case Trump. There is something very wrong with the US and quite honestly i'm seeing as part of the problem presently. 

She has admited to guilt. You are not gonna get anything else from this. 

Oh really, what did trump do?



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eva01beserk on 11 September 2017
LadyJasmine said:
Soundwave said:

I'm not a Hilary fan, but like most sane people, I preferred her over Trump.

I'm over the "responsibility" thing though. IMO Trump is a very beatable candidate and the fact is IMO he's going to have a hard time holding all those votes in "blue wall". All it takes is him losing 77,000 or a few of those people choosing not to show up next time and he's toast. 

Republicans were going to win one eventually anyway, but I think generally speaking the sea tide is turning against their overall politics. 

They have lost the popular vote in what? Like 4/6 last elections? If that's their long term strategy, all I have to say is ... overall the country is shifting more to the left. Trump IMO is more of a last gasp death spasm from people who are angry about them but are slowly but surely becoming noticably outnumbered.  

 

 

People want left wing leaders but dont want people like Hillary...

 

it is simple as that... 

people wanted left wing leaders, not so much after obama. Not that he was bad, he gave the people what the wanted, but the people just saw the consecuenses of it like sjw college, health insuranse price skyrocket, bigger defecit in budget, wealthfare being abused. You can say that it was the people getting negativly afected by theese programs that where meant to help everyone that are now wanting to go right.



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Mystro-Sama on 11 September 2017
numberwang said:

Nem said:
Mystro-Sama said:
The US would be so fucked if Hillary was President.

More than it presently is?! Hard to imagine.

Hes brought a lot of investments and jobs so far, even from foreign countries.



LadyJasmine on 11 September 2017
Soundwave said:
LadyJasmine said:

 

 

People want left wing leaders but dont want people like Hillary...

 

it is simple as that... 

Aside from the majority that voted 3 million times more for her, sure. 

Look you can point out flaws in her campaign and there were certainly several, but the "no one wanted Hillary" thing is a bit of a lie. 

As for the book tour, I get it. She wants to make a few bucks, and now is a decent time because it won't intefere with 2018. She's a private citizen, and like any private citizen she's within her rights to seek out commercial oppurtunities that she deems fit. I don't really get worked up about that, if I had spent 4 combined years of my life basically running for president and not getting it (lol), a couple of million bucks from a book deal is something I wouldn't pass on. It's fair game, so long as she fades into the background as 2018 rolls around. 

Once again the popular vote means nothing in the USA.

 

You make the point in order to vindicate her but she still lost to Trump... so Hillary is pathetic to me..