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How much of an impact will these factors have on demand?

None at all 214 50.23%
 
A minimal impact 156 36.62%
 
A significant impact 33 7.75%
 
A major impact 23 5.40%
 
Total:426
Azzanation on 10 September 2017
ironmanDX said:
Azzanation said:

I am not sure when you brought your PS2 or what they were sold at where you are from. In Australia the PS2's sold for over $750 brand new at launch, thats $150 more than what the current X is being pre-ordered at and the PS3 being $800+ AUS dollars.

It was $999 or $950. Had a mate that bought one while we were still in high school. He managed to save that much with his part time job. Dedication indeed!

I believed after Tax they were over $900



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Azzanation on 10 September 2017
CGI-Quality said:
Azzanation said:

I am not sure when you brought your PS2 or what they were sold at where you are from. In Australia the PS2's sold for over $750 at launch, thats $150 more than what the current X is being pre-ordered at and the PS3 being $999+ AUS dollars. They were overly expensive down under

 https://www.cnet.com/au/news/evolution-of-the-playstation-console/

^Just so you know i am not fibbing.

When you look at it, instead of having a new slim model console like last gen offered many times over, they instead give us a more powerful console at the same price as what the launch price was for the orginial model. I find it a much better value package. Last gen all they gave us was a smaller console that runs quietier. This Gen (like the X) they give us a slimmer design plus its 4 times the power. Bargain if you ask me.

Most places, the PS2 wasn't costly like that. Overall, hardly anyone remembers the system for being "very expensive". Like the PS1, it was very affordable for many people, which was one of the reasons for its massive suuccess (again, like the PS1). You said "gamers forget" about the PS2/3 expenses. Well, most people won't track down AUS prices to make a point about general pricing. 

So that's stretching things as fas as they can go. And it's pointless to even compare the prices to the PS3 in this context. No matter how you try to spin it, $499 is going to be an issue for many people, especially this far into the generation. It's priced like a premium product, not a slim model.

Well i didnt realise the PS1 and PS2 were sold at afforable prices. I dont live in other parts of the world. However where i am from everyone remembers the high price tags and it didnt affect there sales down here. Theres no spin here, its just the way it is. I wish the PS1 and PS2 were sold at $500aus.

My point is gamers think $500 is alot of money yet last gen they will go out and buy a Slim model and pay similar prices and not care. The X to me is pretty much what a regular console should cost. Premium dollars would be the PS3. We all have different price points thats afforable to us. Yes the X is marketed as a premium product due to its hardware yet its price point (where i am from) comes out cheaper than the standard launch 360 and XB1 models. $500 is normal here. maybe its alot where you are from however i dont see the big deal and i dont think many people would care either. Its just my opinion.

Will see how it goes. I was rapped when i heard the console price point. It was alot cheaper than i thought it would be. I was expecting a $700+ system.



eva01beserk on 11 September 2017

I'm glad there is always something on the horizon that will make the x1 dominate(globally in the usa). keeps vgchartz going.



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Pemalite on 12 September 2017
Azzanation said:

My point is gamers think $500 is alot of money yet last gen they will go out and buy a Slim model and pay similar prices and not care.

- What Slim Model launched at $500 last gen (remember, not just in AUS - where were high prices of Slim Models besides there)?

I can't remember exactly as it was back when Dinosaurs roamed the Earth... But I am pretty sure even the Xbox 360 S wasn't $500 even in Australia.
I could always dig into my EB Games account and rummage through the consoles I bought?



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DonFerrari on 12 September 2017

Is it you TheDrill?
Xbox One X will have very little if any impact in the consoles race at all, even in USA.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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DonFerrari on 12 September 2017
IkePoR said:
JRPGfan said:

.... theres like a 3m gap? and its just growing and growing.

I dont see Xbox One closeing the gap, the XOX hasnt suddenly made xbox a more popular or selling brand.

Exclusive wise things still look dire for the xbox, both in 2017 and 2018 vs the PS4.

Reminds me of Nintendoom stuff.  "They'd have to completely stop making money for 17 years before going bankrupt"

There were a Xbox higher up (maybe Aaron or Spencer) that said at some point in 2011 that even if they stopped selling X360 PS3 would never overtake they.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Skeeuk on 12 September 2017

This is all wishful thinking. The Xbox one won't overtake the PS4 now. It's fallen too far behind and has no games. I can't believe they have thrown it all away



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really miss the VGCHARTZ of 2008 - 2013...

LivingMetal on 12 September 2017

The graphical difference between the Xbox One X and the PS4 Pro will be minute compared to the Xbox One and the PS4. The difference in the current game library between the the two consoles in general more than make up for the minute graphical difference between the Xbox One X and the PS4 Pro. Ultimately, the Xbox One X = non-issue.



Azzanation on 18 September 2017
Hiku said:
Azzanation said:

Well i didnt realise the PS1 and PS2 were sold at afforable prices. I dont live in other parts of the world. However where i am from everyone remembers the high price tags and it didnt affect there sales down here. Theres no spin here, its just the way it is. I wish the PS1 and PS2 were sold at $500aus.

My point is gamers think $500 is alot of money yet last gen they will go out and buy a Slim model and pay similar prices and not care. The X to me is pretty much what a regular console should cost. Premium dollars would be the PS3. We all have different price points thats afforable to us. Yes the X is marketed as a premium product due to its hardware yet its price point (where i am from) comes out cheaper than the standard launch 360 and XB1 models. $500 is normal here. maybe its alot where you are from however i dont see the big deal and i dont think many people would care either. Its just my opinion.

Will see how it goes. I was rapped when i heard the console price point. It was alot cheaper than i thought it would be. I was expecting a $700+ system.

Your argument is all over the place because you use different currencies left and right.

You're citing the $500 price point of XBX which is clearly a reference to the US price. Because it will not cost $500 in Australia. It will cost $649 in Australia.
Source: https://www.kotaku.com.au/2017/06/the-xbox-one-x-will-cost-649-in-australia/

Furthermore, you should realize that the initial PS2 price point you cited from Australia was not a normal one. Because according to that one, PS2 was $200-450 AUD more expensive at launch than PS4. But in pretty much every other country on the planet, PS4 launched at a higher price than PS2. (Not counting inflation.) Also, in the link you provided it says the PS2 price dropped from 750-1000 AUD to 499 AUD in less than a year.

On top of that we don't know how well PS2 sold in Australia before the price dropped by September 2001. Or how well it would have sold if they continued with that price.

Let's just use one currency, and not mix ones from different regions. Nor cite launch prices that were abnormal, in absense of evidence of how well or poorly it sold at that price.
Both the launch PS3 and the launch Xbox One struggled at a $500+ USD price point. And the Slim models were generally significantly cheaper than the launch versions of their counterparts.
The reason you think people were ok with buying Slim models for $500 is because you seem to be comparing the US launch prices, to the Australian Slim prices.
PS3 Slim was introduced at $299 in USA, compared to the launch price of the fat PS3, which was $499 (20GB) and $599 (60GB). See the difference?
The Slim model was sold for several hundred dollars cheaper than the launch PS3s. 200-300 USD cheaper.
And $299 is not "similar" to the $499 price tag of XB1X.

I always use AUS Dollars. $649 is a good price compared to last gen where we would pay more for a base PS3 and 360. In AUS we paid $550 to $599 for a PS4 and XB1. For an extra $50 more we get 4x more powerful console that is also slimmer and carries a 1tb storage with next gen features to boot. So i am very happy with the price. In AUS we have been ripped off big time on PS1, PS2, PS3 and 360 consoles, the X1X hits the sweat spot for me. Maybe not like that around the world however i am not complaining about price. X is cheaper than last gen consoles and only slightly more expensive to the PS4 and XB1.



FallingTitan on 18 September 2017
Arkaign said:
I see the X1X helping overall very little, but selling to the most hardcore Xbox fans who already own an X1 (who probably already bought X1 w/Kinect at $500 on launch, and then X1S lol).

PUBG is .. probably not a big factor to be honest. The sooner they release it, the better chance of any impact. If it was already out on Xbox it would get some traction. But it's about to be the usual fall rush of mega IPs, already starting with Destiny 2, and the PUBG community is already really well entrenched on PC, where a game like PUBG can thrive decently. It should be a $20-$30 game. There is very little content, it's super janky, it looks like a 2008-era game in almost every aspect other than player count, and that's being VERY generous. I mean, it's a pretty hideous game to look at. There's also the matter of the thing even running on consoles in a respectable way. It's telling we still don't really have console footage to go on, it's notable for being pretty CPU heavy, and runs like trash even on pretty pricey PCs with good CPUs. With low level CPUs it's just an abomination.

https://www.tweaktown.com/articles/8189/playerunknowns-battlegrounds-benchmarked-cpu-gpu-war/index.html

If it comes out rushed at 30fps with drops on X1X, and is virtually unplayable on stock X1/X1S, that will pretty much seal the game on console. It certainly won't run any better on PS4/PS4P.

hhahahaha sooo true!!!! I was one of those people who got the x1 on launch with kinects. And I'm looking forward to getting the x1x. But i didnt get the xbox 1 S tho.