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How much of an impact will these factors have on demand?

None at all 214 50.23%
 
A minimal impact 156 36.62%
 
A significant impact 33 7.75%
 
A major impact 23 5.40%
 
Total:426
derpysquirtle64 said:
VGPolyglot said:

I don't think they'll ever really regain the lead, the longer they are behind the harder it gets.

Maybe. But it seems that the marketing in US will be huge this holiday season, so everything is real in this region. Worldwide? That's not even the question. Even 360 lost to PS3 everywhere except the US.

You forgot Canada, and as far as I recall, UK too.



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flashfire926 said:
derpysquirtle64 said:

Maybe. But it seems that the marketing in US will be huge this holiday season, so everything is real in this region. Worldwide? That's not even the question. Even 360 lost to PS3 everywhere except the US.

You forgot Canada, and as far as I recall, UK too.

Hmm, I see you live in Canada too, but anecdotally speaking I know way more people with a PS4 than an XB1.



VGPolyglot said:
flashfire926 said:

You forgot Canada, and as far as I recall, UK too.

Hmm, I see you live in Canada too, but anecdotally speaking I know way more people with a PS4 than an XB1.

Sorry, I meant that the 360 handily beat ps3 in Canada and UK too. I didnt specify what I was talking about.As for ps4/XB1, I admit PS4 is surely ahead in both territories.



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flashfire926 said:
VGPolyglot said:

Hmm, I see you live in Canada too, but anecdotally speaking I know way more people with a PS4 than an XB1.

Sorry, I meant that the 360 handily beat ps3 in Canada and UK too. I didnt specify what I was talking about.As for ps4/XB1, I admit PS4 is surely ahead in both territories.

Ah. Yeah, I thought you were referring to PS4/XB1 sales.



CGI-Quality said:
Azzanation said:

With 4k booming i wont be suprised it does better than i am expecting. Gamers forget PS2 and PS3 came out the gates very expensive. Price isnt the issue with the X. In fact its priced quite well. Considering last gen we would pay similar for a slim model version with no benefits to the hardware at all. The industry will look at the X as the lastest Slim machine and over time as the price reduces it will sell even better due to its value.

PS3? Yes. PS2? Nah. $500 is in a boat by itself - whether in 2017 or the year 2000. The PS2 was hardly "very expensive". Beyond that, the PS2/3 weren't generation refreshes.

As for the latest "slim machine", it isn't being marketed like that and anyone jumping on the bandwagon knows that isn't what it is. It'll go down as what it is - an iterative console packing the biggest punch for the rest of the gen, but at a premium price.

I am not sure when you brought your PS2 or what they were sold at where you are from. In Australia the PS2's sold for over $750 at launch, thats $150 more than what the current X is being pre-ordered at and the PS3 being $999+ AUS dollars. They were overly expensive down under

 https://www.cnet.com/au/news/evolution-of-the-playstation-console/

^Just so you know i am not fibbing.

When you look at it, instead of having a new slim model console like last gen offered many times over, they instead give us a more powerful console at the same price as what the launch price was for the orginial model. I find it a much better value package. Last gen all they gave us was a smaller console that runs quietier. This Gen (like the X) they give us a slimmer design plus its 4 times the power. Bargain if you ask me.



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Azzanation said:
CGI-Quality said:

PS3? Yes. PS2? Nah. $500 is in a boat by itself - whether in 2017 or the year 2000. The PS2 was hardly "very expensive". Beyond that, the PS2/3 weren't generation refreshes.

As for the latest "slim machine", it isn't being marketed like that and anyone jumping on the bandwagon knows that isn't what it is. It'll go down as what it is - an iterative console packing the biggest punch for the rest of the gen, but at a premium price.

I am not sure when you brought your PS2 or what they were sold at where you are from. In Australia the PS2's sold for over $750 brand new at launch, thats $150 more than what the current X is being pre-ordered at and the PS3 being $800+ AUS dollars.

It was $999 or $950. Had a mate that bought one while we were still in high school. He managed to save that much with his part time job. Dedication indeed!



ironmanDX said:
Azzanation said:

I am not sure when you brought your PS2 or what they were sold at where you are from. In Australia the PS2's sold for over $750 brand new at launch, thats $150 more than what the current X is being pre-ordered at and the PS3 being $800+ AUS dollars.

It was $999 or $950. Had a mate that bought one while we were still in high school. He managed to save that much with his part time job. Dedication indeed!

I believed after Tax they were over $900



Azzanation said:
CGI-Quality said:

PS3? Yes. PS2? Nah. $500 is in a boat by itself - whether in 2017 or the year 2000. The PS2 was hardly "very expensive". Beyond that, the PS2/3 weren't generation refreshes.

As for the latest "slim machine", it isn't being marketed like that and anyone jumping on the bandwagon knows that isn't what it is. It'll go down as what it is - an iterative console packing the biggest punch for the rest of the gen, but at a premium price.

I am not sure when you brought your PS2 or what they were sold at where you are from. In Australia the PS2's sold for over $750 at launch, thats $150 more than what the current X is being pre-ordered at and the PS3 being $999+ AUS dollars. They were overly expensive down under

 https://www.cnet.com/au/news/evolution-of-the-playstation-console/

^Just so you know i am not fibbing.

When you look at it, instead of having a new slim model console like last gen offered many times over, they instead give us a more powerful console at the same price as what the launch price was for the orginial model. I find it a much better value package. Last gen all they gave us was a smaller console that runs quietier. This Gen (like the X) they give us a slimmer design plus its 4 times the power. Bargain if you ask me.

Most places, the PS2 wasn't costly like that. Overall, hardly anyone remembers the system for being "very expensive". Like the PS1, it was very affordable for many people, which was one of the reasons for its massive suuccess (again, like the PS1). You said "gamers forget" about the PS2/3 expenses. Well, most people won't track down AUS prices to make a point about general pricing. 

So that's stretching things as fas as they can go. And it's pointless to even compare the prices to the PS3 in this context. No matter how you try to spin it, $499 is going to be an issue for many people, especially this far into the generation. It's priced like a premium product, not a slim model.



                                                                                                                                            

CGI-Quality said:
Azzanation said:

I am not sure when you brought your PS2 or what they were sold at where you are from. In Australia the PS2's sold for over $750 at launch, thats $150 more than what the current X is being pre-ordered at and the PS3 being $999+ AUS dollars. They were overly expensive down under

 https://www.cnet.com/au/news/evolution-of-the-playstation-console/

^Just so you know i am not fibbing.

When you look at it, instead of having a new slim model console like last gen offered many times over, they instead give us a more powerful console at the same price as what the launch price was for the orginial model. I find it a much better value package. Last gen all they gave us was a smaller console that runs quietier. This Gen (like the X) they give us a slimmer design plus its 4 times the power. Bargain if you ask me.

Most places, the PS2 wasn't costly like that. Overall, hardly anyone remembers the system for being "very expensive". Like the PS1, it was very affordable for many people, which was one of the reasons for its massive suuccess (again, like the PS1). You said "gamers forget" about the PS2/3 expenses. Well, most people won't track down AUS prices to make a point about general pricing. 

So that's stretching things as fas as they can go. And it's pointless to even compare the prices to the PS3 in this context. No matter how you try to spin it, $499 is going to be an issue for many people, especially this far into the generation. It's priced like a premium product, not a slim model.

Well i didnt realise the PS1 and PS2 were sold at afforable prices. I dont live in other parts of the world. However where i am from everyone remembers the high price tags and it didnt affect there sales down here. Theres no spin here, its just the way it is. I wish the PS1 and PS2 were sold at $500aus.

My point is gamers think $500 is alot of money yet last gen they will go out and buy a Slim model and pay similar prices and not care. The X to me is pretty much what a regular console should cost. Premium dollars would be the PS3. We all have different price points thats afforable to us. Yes the X is marketed as a premium product due to its hardware yet its price point (where i am from) comes out cheaper than the standard launch 360 and XB1 models. $500 is normal here. maybe its alot where you are from however i dont see the big deal and i dont think many people would care either. Its just my opinion.

Will see how it goes. I was rapped when i heard the console price point. It was alot cheaper than i thought it would be. I was expecting a $700+ system.



Azzanation said:
CGI-Quality said:

Most places, the PS2 wasn't costly like that. Overall, hardly anyone remembers the system for being "very expensive". Like the PS1, it was very affordable for many people, which was one of the reasons for its massive suuccess (again, like the PS1). You said "gamers forget" about the PS2/3 expenses. Well, most people won't track down AUS prices to make a point about general pricing. 

So that's stretching things as fas as they can go. And it's pointless to even compare the prices to the PS3 in this context. No matter how you try to spin it, $499 is going to be an issue for many people, especially this far into the generation. It's priced like a premium product, not a slim model.

Well i didnt realise the PS1 and PS2 were sold at afforable prices. I dont live in other parts of the world. However where i am from everyone remembers the high price tags and it didnt affect there sales down here. Theres no spin here, its just the way it is. I wish the PS1 and PS2 were sold at $500aus.

- There was spin, because you spoke for an entirety of people, when really, it was just a select area of the world. 

My point is gamers think $500 is alot of money yet last gen they will go out and buy a Slim model and pay similar prices and not care.

- What Slim Model launched at $500 last gen (remember, not just in AUS - where were high prices of Slim Models besides there)?

The X to me is pretty much what a regular console should cost. Premium dollars would be the PS3.

- The world seems to disagree, as they did in 2013 when the $500 XB1 went head-to-head with a cheaper PS4. The X1X won't flop, but it's not setting anything ablaze. Just because the PS3's $600 price tag was expensive, doesn't remove the issue of price for the X1X @ $500.

We all have different price points thats afforable to us. Yes the X is marketed as a premium product due to its hardware yet its price point (where i am from) comes out cheaper than the standard launch 360 and XB1 models.

$500 is normal here - Normal in AUS. Not everywhere.

maybe its alot where you are from however i dont see the big deal and i dont think many people would care either. Its just my opinion.

- I pre-ordered an X1X, but that's irrelevant when many others didn't (and won't) due to the pirce tag.

Will see how it goes. I was rapped when i heard the console price point. It was alot cheaper than i thought it would be. I was expecting a $700+ system.

My take.