Soundwave said:
mZuzek said:
It's not about expecting something to live up to the original trilogy, since basing expectations on previous work is always a crappy mentality. The expectation isn't for the new movies to blow the original trilogy out of the water, it's for them to be good movies and be able to stand on their own. Force Awakens could have been a decent movie, but it was executed poorly and too often lost in fan service - Rogue One on the contrary was good because of the fan service, but it still doesn't stand as its own thing.
It's not like the original trilogy is this holy grail of moviemaking either, right? Only Empire was a truly amazing movie, the other two were good/great at best.
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Empire is the holy grail in terms of the "Hollywood blockbuster" model. I think only Raiders of the Lost Ark, Wrath of Khan, Terminator 2, maaaaybe 1999's Matrix, and Fellowship of the Ring, perhaps The Dark Knight are even on that level (and I mean on level, not even). Return of the Jedi is underrated too IMO, the scenes with Luke/Vader/Emperor reach a level very, very few films in the fantasy/sci-fi genre will ever touch. You can palpably "feel" the struggle Luke has and the anger coming out of him is spot on, everything about that is so well written and really understated by people.
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Man, I just don't get it. I'll admit I haven't seen some of those films in a long time, but why do people put Raiders, Matrix, and LOTR on such a high pedestal? I haven't seen Wrath of Khan or any Terminator so I can't comment on those, but The Dark Knight is the only film on that list that I think holds up even close to Empire. Maybe I just need to rewatch those films, I mean as a kid I didn't appreciate Empire nearly as much as I do now(ROTJ was my favorite, followed by Episode 3 as a kid). But some of those i've seen recently, like Fellowship ... I always appreciate what LOTR does way more than I enjoy it, I don't think it's really that amazing as a blockbuster, it's kind of bloated and it's more so a success as an adaptation and a "wow they could make this?" than as a movie. Matrix is just so meh, Raiders isn't even the best Indiana Jones, that's 3, and it's not even a contest it's by farrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr the best movie in the Indiana Jones series. I also remember the 2nd Indiana Jones doing much more interesting things than the first, tuff that really caught your attention.