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StarOcean said:
epicurean said:

I was suspecting something like this. Has anyone else read the new canon books that take place between Jedi and Ep7? It's clear they are pushing a narrative. I still like the books, but there was one small section in the Princess Leia Bloodlines book that mentioned a gay character, and it came out of nowhere and stuck out like a sore thumb. It was obvious the writer included it to meet a quota, or some such situation.

In the Aftermath series, the main characters were all female - there were adult males in the party, one of which was gay, and they spent a lot of time focusing on his love life.

Add it up with the fact that the two movies out so far both have female leads (and the only white male was supposed to die before rewrites - Poe) and it becomes more and more obvious what's going on. It wouldn't suprise me if Luke turning dark has something to do with this as well.

Umm.. Oscar Isaac is Guatemalan/Cuban. Wouldnt exactly say he's white as he is Latino

Ah, my bad. Even fits more then!



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I think this is for the best: Jurassic World was the Fast and the Furious meets Jurassic Park.

JJ and Rian are way more cerebral and polished than Colin, and it shows.



Soundwave said:

I think people should just accept the original trilogy will never be beaten. Too many things went right for the OT, it was too groundbreaking, etc. etc. You can't top Darth Vader or Yoda or Han Solo or Emperor the "I'm your father" twist. 

The current movies will be "safe" solidly made films mostly like the Marvel movies are. Solid entertainment that don't have some of the more egregiously embarrassing moments the prequels did. There is like maybe 1 or 2 scenes total in the three prequels that actually work as scenes without having to be a lightsaber battle or space sequence. 

Disney also brungs much better directors than Lucas to the series, so the newer films should be much better than the OT. I grew up on IV-VI, but the VII's execution is absurdly better than those. When Lucas completely took over I-III, his incompetence (as director) only became more glaring. I'll be forever thankful for his creation, but his limits are quite evident.



epicurean said:
AlfredoTurkey said:

Just read on theforce.net that he clashed with SJW/feminist KK over the script. Let this be a lesson to all future males attempting to work on Star Wars... you've better be a feminist and you'd better be on board with the SJW angle. 

Every single day that passes makes me miss Lucas more.

I was suspecting something like this. Has anyone else read the new canon books that take place between Jedi and Ep7? It's clear they are pushing a narrative. I still like the books, but there was one small section in the Princess Leia Bloodlines book that mentioned a gay character, and it came out of nowhere and stuck out like a sore thumb. It was obvious the writer included it to meet a quota, or some such situation.

In the Aftermath series, the main characters were all female - there were adult males in the party, one of which was gay, and they spent a lot of time focusing on his love life.

Add it up with the fact that the two movies out so far both have female leads (and the only white male was supposed to die before rewrites - Poe) and it becomes more and more obvious what's going on. It wouldn't suprise me if Luke turning dark has something to do with this as well.

Kathleen Kennedy has hired like 6 different directors for Star Wars ... they're all freaking men. 

Can we drop that stupidity? The director who directs IX is 98% likely going to be a man. She just hired Ron Howard to take over the Han Solo picture. 

George Lucas is more liberal than anyone, and his reported draft for this sequel trilogy also had a woman as the main character. 

Trevorow is fired likely because he was writing shit and had bad ideas. Dude has done nothing but one Jurassic Park movie that anyone could've directed. The recent film he did on his own flopped and got terrible reviews, he never should've been given the job of wrapping up a main Star Wars trilogy picture to begin with. 

The Book Of Henry -- Trevorrow's latest film ... a putrid 22% rotten:

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_book_of_henry/

That might be your first freaking tip off that this guy sucks. 



AngryLittleAlchemist said:
abronn627 said:

I'm not ready to say that they're handling the franchise badly. You may have been disappointed by ep7, but overall they've took the right decisions. We should wait for the Last Jedi before judging thoses decisions. But one thing is clear, Star Wars is in better hand now than 5 years ago.

On the contrary, it's not really the quality that matters. Episode 7 could have been great and they'd still be mishandling the series.

http://www.businessinsider.com/star-wars-han-solo-movie-directors-phil-lord-christopher-miller-fired-2017-6

http://www.businessinsider.com/han-solo-movie-set-details-2017-6

and then there's the Rogue One incident, where they had to edit and reshoot a lot of the movie for millions of dollars(they hired someone to do it for 5 million, but it's unclear how much more it costed). 

Episode 7 being a disappointing, nay, bad movie, is just the cherry on top. But I'm willing to except that's just my opinion and that these movies will always make a profit. Just kind of sad to see a very inconsistent and badly managed franchise. Just thought it was well accepted by now in the community that Disney is not managing the films well, since it's well documented and there's even entire joke videos about it. 

The movies aren't the only thing badly managed, they ruined the games too by giving the license to EA who so far only managed to crap out 1 shooter.

In all this new Star Wars craze there should've been multiple games each year just like it was when the prequels came out. Let EA keep making their stuff, but have Rogue Squadron brought back, let Obsidian make a Star Wars RPG, a Jedi hack n slash by Platinum, a Star Wars RTS etc.



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Turkish said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

On the contrary, it's not really the quality that matters. Episode 7 could have been great and they'd still be mishandling the series.

http://www.businessinsider.com/star-wars-han-solo-movie-directors-phil-lord-christopher-miller-fired-2017-6

http://www.businessinsider.com/han-solo-movie-set-details-2017-6

and then there's the Rogue One incident, where they had to edit and reshoot a lot of the movie for millions of dollars(they hired someone to do it for 5 million, but it's unclear how much more it costed). 

Episode 7 being a disappointing, nay, bad movie, is just the cherry on top. But I'm willing to except that's just my opinion and that these movies will always make a profit. Just kind of sad to see a very inconsistent and badly managed franchise. Just thought it was well accepted by now in the community that Disney is not managing the films well, since it's well documented and there's even entire joke videos about it. 

The movies aren't the only thing badly managed, they ruined the games too by giving the license to EA who so far only managed to crap out 1 shooter.

In all this new Star Wars craze there should've been multiple games each year just like it was when the prequels came out. Let EA keep making their stuff, but have Rogue Squadron brought back, let Obsidian make a Star Wars RPG, a Jedi hack n slash by Platinum, a Star Wars RTS etc.

The end product is all that matters. 

Episode VII had incredible box office and genreally speaking was far better received by the general public than any of the prequels. 

Rogue One did huge box office for a spin-off and generally solid reviews. 

EA Star Wars Battlefront was a huge success for EA and is legit one of the bigger IP now in gaming. 

People are over blowing the "badly managed" stuff. Star Wars is more popular today than at any point before Jar-Jar showed up in 1999. 

You're never going to get something better than the original trilogy, I think people just need to let that expectation go. Too many things went right for Star Wars the first time around, it's too difficult to top that. 



I'm not worried about him leaving, more curious about who they replace him with at this stage.



Insidb said:
Soundwave said:

I think people should just accept the original trilogy will never be beaten. Too many things went right for the OT, it was too groundbreaking, etc. etc. You can't top Darth Vader or Yoda or Han Solo or Emperor the "I'm your father" twist. 

The current movies will be "safe" solidly made films mostly like the Marvel movies are. Solid entertainment that don't have some of the more egregiously embarrassing moments the prequels did. There is like maybe 1 or 2 scenes total in the three prequels that actually work as scenes without having to be a lightsaber battle or space sequence. 

Disney also brungs much better directors than Lucas to the series, so the newer films should be much better than the OT. I grew up on IV-VI, but the VII's execution is absurdly better than those. When Lucas completely took over I-III, his incompetence (as director) only became more glaring. I'll be forever thankful for his creation, but his limits are quite evident.

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Soundwave said:
AlfredoTurkey said:

Just read on theforce.net that he clashed with SJW/feminist KK over the script. Let this be a lesson to all future males attempting to work on Star Wars... you've better be a feminist and you'd better be on board with the SJW angle. 

Every single day that passes makes me miss Lucas more.

lol, Kathleen Kennedy has produced many of the most successful films of all time. 

George Lucas was done, dude couldn't write a dialogue scene without embarassing himself any longer. Watching actors like Natalie Portman and Sam Jackson try to desperately do their best with the lame shit they were given was painful, it was like watching an experienced actor trying to act in a play written by a 6th grader. 

Good on KK for moving quickly and giving Trevorrow the boot. Dude's last film sucked ass apparently, he never should've been given the job in the first place. 

She also produced some hot garbage - The Last Airbender, Indiana Jones 4, Jurassic Park 3. She's been riding on Spielberg's coat tails for decades until Star Wars.



mZuzek said:
Soundwave said:

You're never going to get something better than the original trilogy, I think people just need to let that expectation go. Too many things went right for Star Wars the first time around, it's too difficult to top that. 

It's not about expecting something to live up to the original trilogy, since basing expectations on previous work is always a crappy mentality. The expectation isn't for the new movies to blow the original trilogy out of the water, it's for them to be good movies and be able to stand on their own. Force Awakens could have been a decent movie, but it was executed poorly and too often lost in fan service - Rogue One on the contrary was good because of the fan service, but it still doesn't stand as its own thing.

It's not like the original trilogy is this holy grail of moviemaking either, right? Only Empire was a truly amazing movie, the other two were good/great at best.

Empire is the holy grail in terms of the "Hollywood blockbuster" model. I think only Raiders of the Lost Ark, Wrath of Khan, Terminator 2, maaaaybe 1999's Matrix, and Fellowship of the Ring, perhaps The Dark Knight are even on that level (and I mean on level, not even). Return of the Jedi is underrated too IMO, the scenes with Luke/Vader/Emperor reach a level very, very few films in the fantasy/sci-fi genre will ever touch. You can palpably "feel" the struggle Luke has and the anger coming out of him is spot on, everything about that is so well written and really understated by people. 

It's hard to make "movies stand on their own" when you are talking about like the 7th/8th/9th/10th movie in any franchise. I mean do any of the current Marvel movies "stand on their own"? Would you know what the hell is going on in Captain America Civil War without having seen like 5 other Marvel movies?Probably not.