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So here's the problem with racism and social media. What difference does it make where the parents came from? What point is there in saying they are from India? You could remove the word "India/Indian" from the article and suddenly it doesn't become as sensational. Aside from the borderline racist/prejudice comments in here, India has a lower domestic violence rate than the US. This has nothing to do with people from India so why is that a focal point? Honestly, racism wouldn't be as big of a deal as it is if the media wasn't constantly focusing on the color/race/religion of people. Saying "parents from India" serves no better purpose than "Florida mans parents". And you can see the ignorance in this very thread where some people are commenting things like, 'well this is expected from those people'. No. It's really not. There are more cases of domestic violence here in the US than there is in India per 100,000 people so that's a bullshit excuse. We need to stop extrapolating one bad apple to the whole bunch because the reality of the situation is that someone can be fucked up and not represent their culture and that is true almost every single time. Once we can stop looking at factors of race color or religion, racism itself will disappear. Instead of, 'it's what these people do', it will become 'what THAT person did' and I think that everyone world wide would be better off for it.


More on topic though - it's sad that this family felt that they had to meet disobedience with abuse. I feel sorry for the family and my condolences go out to the wife affected.



Indians are so fucking retarded.

Its ok, I can say that. I'm 1/4 indian. lol



Jumpin said:
And people said American Indians were peaceful...

Most of them are. There are a couple of monsters like this individual in America, but most just want to live out their lives peacefully. 



 

 

aLkaLiNE said:
So here's the problem with racism and social media. What difference does it make where the parents came from? What point is there in saying they are from India? You could remove the word "India/Indian" from the article and suddenly it doesn't become as sensational. Aside from the borderline racist/prejudice comments in here, India has a lower domestic violence rate than the US. This has nothing to do with people from India so why is that a focal point? Honestly, racism wouldn't be as big of a deal as it is if the media wasn't constantly focusing on the color/race/religion of people. Saying "parents from India" serves no better purpose than "Florida mans parents". And you can see the ignorance in this very thread where some people are commenting things like, 'well this is expected from those people'. No. It's really not. There are more cases of domestic violence here in the US than there is in India per 100,000 people so that's a bullshit excuse. We need to stop extrapolating one bad apple to the whole bunch because the reality of the situation is that someone can be fucked up and not represent their culture and that is true almost every single time. Once we can stop looking at factors of race color or religion, racism itself will disappear. Instead of, 'it's what these people do', it will become 'what THAT person did' and I think that everyone world wide would be better off for it.


More on topic though - it's sad that this family felt that they had to meet disobedience with abuse. I feel sorry for the family and my condolences go out to the wife affected.

So what do you say to the 2 or 3 on this who said they are from india and a part of them the punjabi where they claim is comon? Is it racist to agree with them?

You know why its important to say they came from india, because this woud never happen in th west. If they hid it, like people in sweeden or germany hide muslim identitys when they commit crimes, people start to question and ask why then it becomes a bigger issue. By hiding things to not sound racist, then when that comes out it causes a biger uproar and you end up doing more damage.

And Im calling BS on the crime per capita thing. Not because of racism, but becaue of wealth. Crime, abuse, drugs,poor education, disorder and all that is always higher the more impoberish the place. While india does seem to be growing and has many booming citys and econmis in them, the majority dont benefit from it and it where you will see this types of behabiours. And Im from a developing country myself so I have seen the diference of the developed side and the other and you would think is another country with diferent morals, belives and everithing. Even with laws that condem the act, no enforcemen is present so its still rampant.

All Im trying to say is that its not rcist to say a specific group has a problem. If we dont point it out, or say is more prebelent there, then they will never fix it, or some other party push them to fix it.



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eva01beserk said:
Smartie900 said:

No problem man.  Punjab does have its problems... Especially with drugs. I just hope that one day the majority of Punjabi people who are goodhearted, kind people will speak out against practices such as this. Maybe then we can get along with different states. 

Where we not waiting for another religious group that does this and worse to also speak out and change their ways? Since that has not happened, this might take a while as well. I expect this group to change before the other one.

Assuming you're talking about Islam,  I think it's unfair to expect Muslims to "change their ways" when most of them like anyone else just want to live peacefully. I will admit that the archaic traditions of Islam are taken too far in certain cases (Saudi Arabia, Terrorism). However, the vast majority just want to practice their religion in peace without infringing upon anyone's rights. 



 

 

eva01beserk said:
aLkaLiNE said:
So here's the problem with racism and social media. What difference does it make where the parents came from? What point is there in saying they are from India? You could remove the word "India/Indian" from the article and suddenly it doesn't become as sensational. Aside from the borderline racist/prejudice comments in here, India has a lower domestic violence rate than the US. This has nothing to do with people from India so why is that a focal point? Honestly, racism wouldn't be as big of a deal as it is if the media wasn't constantly focusing on the color/race/religion of people. Saying "parents from India" serves no better purpose than "Florida mans parents". And you can see the ignorance in this very thread where some people are commenting things like, 'well this is expected from those people'. No. It's really not. There are more cases of domestic violence here in the US than there is in India per 100,000 people so that's a bullshit excuse. We need to stop extrapolating one bad apple to the whole bunch because the reality of the situation is that someone can be fucked up and not represent their culture and that is true almost every single time. Once we can stop looking at factors of race color or religion, racism itself will disappear. Instead of, 'it's what these people do', it will become 'what THAT person did' and I think that everyone world wide would be better off for it.


More on topic though - it's sad that this family felt that they had to meet disobedience with abuse. I feel sorry for the family and my condolences go out to the wife affected.

So what do you say to the 2 or 3 on this who said they are from india and a part of them the punjabi where they claim is comon? Is it racist to agree with them?

You know why its important to say they came from india, because this woud never happen in th west. If they hid it, like people in sweeden or germany hide muslim identitys when they commit crimes, people start to question and ask why then it becomes a bigger issue. By hiding things to not sound racist, then when that comes out it causes a biger uproar and you end up doing more damage.

And Im calling BS on the crime per capita thing. Not because of racism, but becaue of wealth. Crime, abuse, drugs,poor education, disorder and all that is always higher the more impoberish the place. While india does seem to be growing and has many booming citys and econmis in them, the majority dont benefit from it and it where you will see this types of behabiours. And Im from a developing country myself so I have seen the diference of the developed side and the other and you would think is another country with diferent morals, belives and everithing. Even with laws that condem the act, no enforcemen is present so its still rampant.

All Im trying to say is that its not rcist to say a specific group has a problem. If we dont point it out, or say is more prebelent there, then they will never fix it, or some other party push them to fix it.

Women get beat in Eastern Europe like it's going out of style. In Russia it's even being decriminalized, lol:

https://qz.com/896625/female-lawmakers-in-russia-helped-pushed-through-a-bill-that-will-decriminalize-domestic-violence/

Hell spare me the "this doesn't happen in the West" bullshit either, plenty of western women are getting beat into the ground right now by their western boyfriends/husbands, pretty much right now as I type this. I lived down the street to a couple where the husband would beat the shit out of his wife regularily as the cops would be out there all the time, and he was an average "all American" dude.



eva01beserk said:
aLkaLiNE said:
So here's the problem with racism and social media. What difference does it make where the parents came from? What point is there in saying they are from India? You could remove the word "India/Indian" from the article and suddenly it doesn't become as sensational. Aside from the borderline racist/prejudice comments in here, India has a lower domestic violence rate than the US. This has nothing to do with people from India so why is that a focal point? Honestly, racism wouldn't be as big of a deal as it is if the media wasn't constantly focusing on the color/race/religion of people. Saying "parents from India" serves no better purpose than "Florida mans parents". And you can see the ignorance in this very thread where some people are commenting things like, 'well this is expected from those people'. No. It's really not. There are more cases of domestic violence here in the US than there is in India per 100,000 people so that's a bullshit excuse. We need to stop extrapolating one bad apple to the whole bunch because the reality of the situation is that someone can be fucked up and not represent their culture and that is true almost every single time. Once we can stop looking at factors of race color or religion, racism itself will disappear. Instead of, 'it's what these people do', it will become 'what THAT person did' and I think that everyone world wide would be better off for it.


More on topic though - it's sad that this family felt that they had to meet disobedience with abuse. I feel sorry for the family and my condolences go out to the wife affected.

So what do you say to the 2 or 3 on this who said they are from india and a part of them the punjabi where they claim is comon? Is it racist to agree with them?

You know why its important to say they came from india, because this woud never happen in th west. If they hid it, like people in sweeden or germany hide muslim identitys when they commit crimes, people start to question and ask why then it becomes a bigger issue. By hiding things to not sound racist, then when that comes out it causes a biger uproar and you end up doing more damage.

And Im calling BS on the crime per capita thing. Not because of racism, but becaue of wealth. Crime, abuse, drugs,poor education, disorder and all that is always higher the more impoberish the place. While india does seem to be growing and has many booming citys and econmis in them, the majority dont benefit from it and it where you will see this types of behabiours. And Im from a developing country myself so I have seen the diference of the developed side and the other and you would think is another country with diferent morals, belives and everithing. Even with laws that condem the act, no enforcemen is present so its still rampant.

All Im trying to say is that its not rcist to say a specific group has a problem. If we dont point it out, or say is more prebelent there, then they will never fix it, or some other party push them to fix it.

This shit happens all the time in the west, proportionally more than it does in India which is something I pointed out so what are you even talking about? This is not an issue exclusive or even prominent in India, it's an issue that's more common here in the west! Them saying it mainly comes from punjabi would be no different than me saying there are higher concentrations of domestic violence in Detroit or Watts, NY. So then, why are we generalizing it all as India? That's just perpetuating racism to the ignorant people such as yourself that believe it's an entire group of people when it's not even a majority of that people, it's an isolated thing that happened for one family. This has -nothing- to do with race or religion or culture therefore I ask, why are we bringing those factors into this?  It's (domestic violence) an issue that every culture deals with. Some more so than others. America more than india in this case. But go ahead and call BS on your anecdotal gut feeling. I'll trust statistics given by our very own government more so than some random poster on the Internet.

 

This isn't hiding things to not sound racist. This is bringing race into something that has no root in race. Which is racism. India as a specific group doesn't have more of a problem than Americans do. You are welcome to ignorantly believe they do without any facts to back up your claim though. I suppose we've already topped out as far as social progression goes anyway.



aLkaLiNE said:
eva01beserk said:

So what do you say to the 2 or 3 on this who said they are from india and a part of them the punjabi where they claim is comon? Is it racist to agree with them?

You know why its important to say they came from india, because this woud never happen in th west. If they hid it, like people in sweeden or germany hide muslim identitys when they commit crimes, people start to question and ask why then it becomes a bigger issue. By hiding things to not sound racist, then when that comes out it causes a biger uproar and you end up doing more damage.

And Im calling BS on the crime per capita thing. Not because of racism, but becaue of wealth. Crime, abuse, drugs,poor education, disorder and all that is always higher the more impoberish the place. While india does seem to be growing and has many booming citys and econmis in them, the majority dont benefit from it and it where you will see this types of behabiours. And Im from a developing country myself so I have seen the diference of the developed side and the other and you would think is another country with diferent morals, belives and everithing. Even with laws that condem the act, no enforcemen is present so its still rampant.

All Im trying to say is that its not rcist to say a specific group has a problem. If we dont point it out, or say is more prebelent there, then they will never fix it, or some other party push them to fix it.

This shit happens all the time in the west, proportionally more than it does in India which is something I pointed out so what are you even talking about? This is not an issue exclusive or even prominent in India, it's an issue that's more common here in the west! Them saying it mainly comes from punjabi would be no different than me saying there are higher concentrations of domestic violence in Detroit or Watts, NY. So then, why are we generalizing it all as India? That's just perpetuating racism to the ignorant people such as yourself that believe it's an entire group of people when it's not even a majority of that people, it's an isolated thing that happened for one family. This has -nothing- to do with race or religion or culture therefore I ask, why are we bringing those factors into this?  It's (domestic violence) an issue that every culture deals with. Some more so than others. America more than india in this case. But go ahead and call BS on your anecdotal gut feeling. I'll trust statistics given by our very own government more so than some random poster on the Internet.

 

This isn't hiding things to not sound racist. This is bringing race into something that has no root in race. Which is racism. India as a specific group doesn't have more of a problem than Americans do. You are welcome to ignorantly believe they do without any facts to back up your claim though. I suppose we've already topped out as far as social progression goes anyway.

Cant say I know If any of this data is acurate, or any of the sites are reliable but this is what I got

Peer reviewed reserch where the worst case senario is still under 30% in EU and US and worst for other nations including india. It also indicates a lot of other factors ands tuf wich I was not gona be bother to read all that, But is still shows that america and EU have lower violence to women, even though russia still counts as part of EU. 

http://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/10665/85239/1/9789241564625_eng.pdf

DId not read it, just skiped tot he pretty chartz nd and some of the conclusions. Fell free to read it  and tell me if Im mistaken. 

What you are claiming could never be backed up cuz all the actual data and reserch will always show the contrary. The is a reasing why Mass inmigration is to the west and not viseversa.  and again I say this even though you ignored it before, Its not a race thing, its a wealth thing. even in the very US the hiighest amount of domestic violence per capita always happes in poor areas, with worse education and where substance abuse is more prebelant. the reason other nations have higher rates of domestic violence or sexual assault, is because they have a higher amount of poverty and in poberty areas the laws are les enforced.

 



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Soundwave said:
eva01beserk said:

So what do you say to the 2 or 3 on this who said they are from india and a part of them the punjabi where they claim is comon? Is it racist to agree with them?

You know why its important to say they came from india, because this woud never happen in th west. If they hid it, like people in sweeden or germany hide muslim identitys when they commit crimes, people start to question and ask why then it becomes a bigger issue. By hiding things to not sound racist, then when that comes out it causes a biger uproar and you end up doing more damage.

And Im calling BS on the crime per capita thing. Not because of racism, but becaue of wealth. Crime, abuse, drugs,poor education, disorder and all that is always higher the more impoberish the place. While india does seem to be growing and has many booming citys and econmis in them, the majority dont benefit from it and it where you will see this types of behabiours. And Im from a developing country myself so I have seen the diference of the developed side and the other and you would think is another country with diferent morals, belives and everithing. Even with laws that condem the act, no enforcemen is present so its still rampant.

All Im trying to say is that its not rcist to say a specific group has a problem. If we dont point it out, or say is more prebelent there, then they will never fix it, or some other party push them to fix it.

Women get beat in Eastern Europe like it's going out of style. In Russia it's even being decriminalized, lol:

https://qz.com/896625/female-lawmakers-in-russia-helped-pushed-through-a-bill-that-will-decriminalize-domestic-violence/

Hell spare me the "this doesn't happen in the West" bullshit either, plenty of western women are getting beat into the ground right now by their western boyfriends/husbands, pretty much right now as I type this. I lived down the street to a couple where the husband would beat the shit out of his wife regularily as the cops would be out there all the time, and he was an average "all American" dude.

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