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Johnw1104 on 02 September 2017
Angelus said:
"With this gold mine, at least, we feel like it's really important to only mine like 30% of it....cus if we got it all we'd be like way too rich"

I'm not sure what you expect Nintendo to do... There's almost zero chance either of their partners would actually be willing to sell their portion of the Pokemon Company, which is about as reliable a source of income as any in the industry.

Meanwhile, it would cost a lot to buyout the others, and if they did buy off Game Freak (for instance) it'd then be on them to fully fund all future game development.

As things currently stand, Nintendo makes a ton of money from Pokemon directly, its platforms benefit enormously from Pokemon's exclusive presence on them, and they don't have to make the games themselves (though obviously they often provide plenty of assistance, be it financial or technical). I just don't see any reason they'd look to rock the gravy boat... they have the best situation of the three and Game Freak assumes most of the risk.



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Johnw1104 on 02 September 2017
Ka-pi96 said:
Johnw1104 said:

Strangely, that's the part I felt most confident about (I just tacked that last bit on to the end as it really wasn't even relevant as far as Nintendo keeping Pokemon is concerned) but I've been looking for a concrete source for some ten minutes now and can't find anything. I come across plenty of people claiming confidently that Nintendo owns half of Game Freak's shares (or sometimes more specifically 53%), but I'm honestly wondering if this is just some rumor that's been passed around over and over for so long that we all just assume it's true lol

Unfortunately, I can't find a single "primary" source, which makes me suspect it isn't true. Really, it would almost be a waste of money for Nintendo to buy Gamefreak shares: they already own 33% of the Pokemon Company and hold all of the leverage they'd ever need over Gamefreak by owning every trademark involving Pokemon, so it's really not necessary. 

Indeed, would surely be listed by Nintendo if they did own shares, IIRC Creatures Inc who also own part of the Pokemon Company are listed in Nintendo's financials as a partially owned company.

Plus, I'd assume if Nintendo had around half of GameFreak's shares then Tembo the Badass Elephant wouldn't have existed (or would have been Nintendo exclusive at least). Still waiting on Tembo 2 though...

Do you happen to have a link to where one can find a company's owned shares? It would certainly be useful to me in the future heh

I was actually under the impression that companies are not required to report what stocks they own and can simply list them as assets, but I'm probably (and hopefully) wrong there; I'd love to be able to look into this sort of thing going forward.

Also, I somehow never noticed Tembo the Badass Elephant lol, what an awesome name! The only "game" I owned that I remember seeing Game Freak's name on outside of Pokemon was the Gameboy Camera, which was actually pretty cool. I still remember that bizarre, spazzing out man in a Mario costume at the start of the game set to weird music lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evYNKOtkIBw

Was Tembo actually good?



StarDoor on 02 September 2017
Johnw1104 said:
Angelus said:
"With this gold mine, at least, we feel like it's really important to only mine like 30% of it....cus if we got it all we'd be like way too rich"

I'm not sure what you expect Nintendo to do... There's almost zero chance either of their partners would actually be willing to sell their portion of the Pokemon Company, which is about as reliable a source of income as any in the industry.

Meanwhile, it would cost a lot to buyout the others, and if they did buy off Game Freak (for instance) it'd then be on them to fully fund all future game development.

As things currently stand, Nintendo makes a ton of money from Pokemon directly, its platforms benefit enormously from Pokemon's exclusive presence on them, and they don't have to make the games themselves (though obviously they often provide plenty of assistance, be it financial or technical). I just don't see any reason they'd look to rock the gravy boat... they have the best situation of the three and Game Freak assumes most of the risk.

He wasn't talking about Nintendo: He was whining about Game Freak only releasing games on Nintendo consoles.



Johnw1104 on 02 September 2017
StarDoor said:
Johnw1104 said:

I'm not sure what you expect Nintendo to do... There's almost zero chance either of their partners would actually be willing to sell their portion of the Pokemon Company, which is about as reliable a source of income as any in the industry.

Meanwhile, it would cost a lot to buyout the others, and if they did buy off Game Freak (for instance) it'd then be on them to fully fund all future game development.

As things currently stand, Nintendo makes a ton of money from Pokemon directly, its platforms benefit enormously from Pokemon's exclusive presence on them, and they don't have to make the games themselves (though obviously they often provide plenty of assistance, be it financial or technical). I just don't see any reason they'd look to rock the gravy boat... they have the best situation of the three and Game Freak assumes most of the risk.

He wasn't talking about Nintendo: He was whining about Game Freak only releasing games on Nintendo consoles.

Oh I see... well, as I pointed out earlier, it's not actually up to them; even if they wanted to head to the PS4 or something Nintendo, the owner of all relevant trademarks, would never allow it.



StarOcean on 02 September 2017
StarDoor said:
StarOcean said:
Pokemon will eventually show up on pther platforms when Nintendo inevitably falls. And for the rabid fans, no, that doesn't mean they'll fall today, tomorrow, next week, or even next year. But eventually all companies die, and Nintendo is not immune to that. And when it does die, the rights to Pokemon will most definitely be bought by a different company and games will appear on that platform, new or old or both

The only way that Nintendo could "fall" is in a situation where Pokémon has no value as an IP anymore.

Time is the killer of all things. I think the issue is you treat "fall" like it's a bad thing. Go out of business, I'm not sure what term would have been best without a distraction to the main point  

zippy said:
StarOcean said:
Pokemon will eventually show up on pther platforms when Nintendo inevitably falls. And for the rabid fans, no, that doesn't mean they'll fall today, tomorrow, next week, or even next year. But eventually all companies die, and Nintendo is not immune to that. And when it does die, the rights to Pokemon will most definitely be bought by a different company and games will appear on that platform, new or old or both

Does this mean we could get Uncharted on a Nintendo console when Sony inevitably falls?

Sony will definitely be gone before Nintendo. So, maybe! But I fail to see how that is revelant 

RolStoppable said:
zippy said:

Does this mean we could get Uncharted on a Nintendo console when Sony inevitably falls?

Of course. That would be his answer.

But the real flaw in StarOcean's post is the assumption that everything has to end with the worst case scenario. He might as well say that all VGC members eventually get (perma)banned, and nobody is immune to that. That too would be an assumption that mismanagement is inevitable.

It's not the worst case scenario. I could have said "not around anymore" but then it'd be like Im talking about a person



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killeryoshis on 02 September 2017

I expect Pokemon to go be on other consoles when Pokemon goes into public domain. Unless Nintendo bribes congress with tons of cash and pokemon toys.



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TK-Karma on 02 September 2017
Jranation said:
I can taste them salty tears from people who wanted this on their console :(

And they'll be crying for a long time yet xD 



DonFerrari on 02 September 2017

Have they never heard of emulators???



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NoirSon on 02 September 2017
DonFerrari said:
Have they never heard of emulators???

The emulation scene doesn't really count in terms of what developers consider a platform they develop for, at least for games like Pokemon where it is never intended to be ported over beyond the initial device to begin with.