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As a gay guy, I find this unecessary. .-.



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The reality is dads4kids has been a staunch anti-gay marriage group for a long time and have been both politically and publically opposed to it. Yet suddenly they want to claim innocence.

 

PS: I don't think there is anything much wrong with the Ad and it probably should be allowed, but you can be 100% certain their goal was to promote male/female marriage and to imply how critical a traditional family is.



Lawlight said:
curl-6 said:

Not really; News Corp are right wing and they own a large share of the printed press here such as the The Australian, the Herald Sun, The Daily Telegraph, The Courier Mail, etc.

They do not own any free-to-air TV channel. And looking at The Australian and the Herald Sun's articles - nothing suggests that they lean right. But print media is nothing compared to free-to-air TV.

Both lean consistently right in their coverage of the ALP/LNP, immigration, drug policy, marriage equality, etc.

And online news is now more important than either TV or newspapers, and New Corp have a strong presence there, with all their leading papers now online.



Aeolus451 said:

I didn't say they had to reshoot the whole thing. I assume they had to pay people to do the commercial from the ground up and don't have the convenient person who can edit something that looks good enough sitting around. It's safe to say it would cost them more money to have it changed. Anything related to commercials is expensive.

Antifa is the far left or alt left because they are comprised entirely of communists, progressives, socialists and probably a few democrats in there who attack any people who lean to the right and in a lot of cases, just random people who they think are nazis because of hair cuts. Also, I didn't say that antifa is the typical leftist but the stormtroopers of the left. Antifa hates free speech. You can quote the dumbass write of the handbook all you want but it doesn't change reality in terms of what antifa is made up of and what they are. You might to reread that part about what I saying is the typical leftist. 

What do you mean, "from the ground up"?  All they had to do was add whatever the hell an "identification tag" is to the advertisement.  I'm not in the TV business, so if you or anyone else reading this can correct my impression please do so with specifics, but it doesn't seem to me like adding a bit of text to the bottom of the screen would take that much expertise and be that expensive. 

And again, when you call antifa "the stormtroopers of the left" this sounds to me as if you're implying a certain amount of coordination, or that one could be considered working "for" another or at least having similar goals that they agree on acceptable means for achieving, which I don't think is the case.  I figure "that part about what I saying is the typical leftist" is referring to "stereotypical leftist trying to shut down opposing points of view from having a platform to speak", but there's a pretty substantial difference between "boycotts, angry letters, or even peaceful protest" and what antifa has done.  There are demonstrations that get out of hand on both the left and the right—whose intentions were peaceful—but antifa (from what little I have heard) sometimes goes out with the specific mission of violence with the aim of suppressing free speech that they dislike.  That may fit your caricature of everyone left of Pat Robinson but that is not the reality.  Private entities are under no obligation to give soapboxes to nasty ideas, and trying to talk them out of doing so is another form of free speech, but if someone does want to help some nutjob exercise legitimate free speech in front of an audience they shouldn't be afraid of physical consequences for doing so or helping someone else do so. 

I mean, you can disagree with Greenpeace without equating them with the Earth Liberation Front. 



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Final-Fan said:
Aeolus451 said:

I didn't say they had to reshoot the whole thing. I assume they had to pay people to do the commercial from the ground up and don't have the convenient person who can edit something that looks good enough sitting around. It's safe to say it would cost them more money to have it changed. Anything related to commercials is expensive.

Antifa is the far left or alt left because they are comprised entirely of communists, progressives, socialists and probably a few democrats in there who attack any people who lean to the right and in a lot of cases, just random people who they think are nazis because of hair cuts. Also, I didn't say that antifa is the typical leftist but the stormtroopers of the left. Antifa hates free speech. You can quote the dumbass write of the handbook all you want but it doesn't change reality in terms of what antifa is made up of and what they are. You might to reread that part about what I saying is the typical leftist. 

What do you mean, "from the ground up"?  All they had to do was add whatever the hell an "identification tag" is to the advertisement.  I'm not in the TV business, so if you or anyone else reading this can correct my impression please do so with specifics, but it doesn't seem to me like adding a bit of text to the bottom of the screen would take that much expertise and be that expensive. 

And again, when you call antifa "the stormtroopers of the left" this sounds to me as if you're implying a certain amount of coordination, or that one could be considered working "for" another or at least having similar goals that they agree on acceptable means for achieving, which I don't think is the case.  I figure "that part about what I saying is the typical leftist" is referring to "stereotypical leftist trying to shut down opposing points of view from having a platform to speak", but there's a pretty substantial difference between "boycotts, angry letters, or even peaceful protest" and what antifa has done.  There are demonstrations that get out of hand on both the left and the right—whose intentions were peaceful—but antifa (from what little I have heard) sometimes goes out with the specific mission of violence with the aim of suppressing free speech that they dislike.  That may fit your caricature of everyone left of Pat Robinson but that is not the reality.  Private entities are under no obligation to give soapboxes to nasty ideas, and trying to talk them out of doing so is another form of free speech, but if someone does want to help some nutjob exercise legitimate free speech in front of an audience they shouldn't be afraid of physical consequences for doing so or helping someone else do so. 

I mean, you can disagree with Greenpeace without equating them with the Earth Liberation Front. 

What I meant with "they had to pay people to do the commercial from the ground up and don't have the convenient person who can edit" is that they likely had to pay people to create the commercial for them since they likely don't have poeple within their group that could do it. In order to change anything in their commercial, they would have to pay someone to edit it.  It's not a simple as edited a post. Anything to do with commercials is expensive. More importantly that would have taken time. It was a father's day commercial meant for father's day. The tag was likely a tactic to at least delay the commercial or stop it altogther. The commercial was harmless. 

Well, the left (liberal politicians/media and leftists in general) have been to turning a blind eye to antifa's antics (they've been really active since last year) since trump has been in office because they've been attacking trump supporters/right leaning people and disrupting events. The media has been calling them regular protestors for the longest time. So in a lot of ways it's their own monster. 

Everytime antifa forms up to go to a protest or rally, they turn violent and attack any right leaning people, reporters/people with cameras and random people that get called a nazi. What's the worse thing about this is the police don't do anything to help control the situation in the areas where these protests often happen because a liberal mayor or school told them to stand down. 



Aeolus451 said:

The ad was a perfect father's day commercial. FreeTV disagreed with the commercial or the group itself. Either way they used a rule they didn't before to shut down the father's day commercial for father's day. They only had to delay it to fuck up the timing for the ad. It's a way to censor without openly doing it. None of this would have been a issue if they just played the ad. Anyone with some common sense realizes that commercials are not representive of the channel they air on and disclaimers in general are redundant.  

Pissed off? That's wishful thinking right there. You mistake me on antifa. I depise the idiots who make up it's ranks and their actions. Their whole cause is pointless because there's no "fascists" around. They are just using their slogans as a justification to attack and bully people who they disagree with politically. They are bigger hypocrites than BLM. The only positive side to them is that they are a blessing in disguise for the right. In that sense, they make me very happy.

Oh, I get it, since you didn't read the article obviously you couldn't have seen the video.
The video is a Father's Day themed ad for the group Dads4Kids, a political group. They were asked to disclaim it, and didn't.
You suggest FreeTV should have broken the Broadcasting Services Act, because it's too much to ask a political group to say "we're a political group", something you seem to be more than willing to ignore, because they align with you personal viewpoint. 

Still, good job trying to explain why they would choose to ever run the ad if their aim was "censorship" whenin they could have just said no.
Seems counterproductive, since they had no obligation to ever run the ad. This "delay" is something you made up, as it's not mentioned even D4K statement.

Since it seems it's taking you long to figure it out: the ad would have ran as is, with a disclaimer. Ain't much censorship if the content is unchanged.
Again, no complains were brought to Dads4Kids or FreeTV about the ad, so your railing against "leftists" (be sure to add SJWs and cucks!) is aimless.
Well, more than usual.

Anyway, you go ahead. I told you, classic marketing ploy, but if you're happy to play ball, who am I from stopping you wasting your time.

P.S. You started going off on an unrelated topic when talking marketing strategies. Maybe calm down, than get back ;)



While I think it's stupid that they won't play the ad, in a world of Donald Trump and North Korea firing misled over Japan, I really don't feel like this qualifies for the "world gone mad" title.



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Just a reminder for people joining in now:
An anti-LGBT political group, Dads4Kids, refused to put a disclaimer in an ad, as required by Australian law, clarifying they are a political group. The ad could therefore not run.

The ad would have ran with no changes with the disclaimer.
No person or group is reported as having opposed the ad, as it seemingly never ran.

The group Dads4Kids, after deleting all content from their site and social media, said they were being censored. 
They got vast attention from news media and even MPs because of this.

 This is marketing. Quite a few in this thread fell for it.



Birimbau said:
Autralia has become a leftist hellhole.

Since they're still debating about gay marriage in 2017, they seem preety conservative to me.