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Superman4 said:
Brii said:

I don't think people are denying that the comment was made at least mostly in jest, but it is reflective of a pretty horrific and dissmissive attitude the police have to a group of people they are supposed to protect and serve. Those people already feel targeted and are wary of the police and this only validates a genuine fear that being stopped by a police officer might result in them being killed.

If the comment isn’t being denied as jest than the rest of your statement is clearly BS. Joking doesn’t make anything fact, it doesn’t mean that he won’t protect a black person or even make the same joke to them and change the race " We only kill white people ".  It doesn’t validate a fear, it validates the media portrayal of police violence against black people. 

 

I suppose you are one of those people who believe that the prison system is made up of a majority of black people because police are racist? That they didn’t actually commit whatever crime they are convicted of? 

There are definitely instances where the police act out of fear and kill someone for no reason, it happens to all races. When you look at high crime rate areas though, most of them are inner cities with a higher black population.  Take a city like Chicago, how many murders this week? How many of those murders happened in predominantly black neighborhoods? I suppose it’s some white guy going around killing people in black neighborhoods, or maybe the cops just targeting that area for no reason. I’m not saying that all races don’t commit crime or that all black people are criminals. I do however refuse to dismiss the fact that areas with predominantly black population seem to be areas with the highest crime rates, Baltimore and Chicago for instance.

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-09-29/race-and-homicide-in-america-by-the-numbers

 

 

1) Unarmed black men are shot by police at the same rate as armed white men.

2) Black youths are shot by police at 21 times the rate at white youths.

3) There is a no discernible difference between the rate of marijuana usage of whites and blacks, but blacks are are criminalized at a distinctly higher rate.

4) The pay-for-play private prison system has targeted and unjustly incarcerated minority youths at a much higher rate.

5) Blacks receive longer and harsher sentences for the same offenses as their white counterparts.

6) There have been recent convictions of judges involved in these discriminatory activities.

 

This is the problem with not understanding the context of statistics: as they say in baseball, "a bloop single looks like a hard line drive in the box score."



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Illusion said:

The title of this video is very misleading. The controversy here is whether the police officer's joke was appropriate but the title makes it sound as though the cop was saying it seriously. Don't you realize that 90% of people only read headlines without reading the underlying article and the really gullible ones will actually draw conclusions from it? Can't you see that the US is teetering on the edge of a race war right now? Tensions are already way too high in the United States and I don't care if you're a CNN reporter or a poster on VGChartz, we all have a responsibility to be as accurate and truthful as possible right now especially when reporting politically heated news like this.

In my personal opinion, even if this officer was a white supremacist (which is not proven) I would not give his narrative attention like this. You don't help wounds heal by picking at them, and the US has a lot of wounds right now. What America needs is to see more pictures of black, hispanic and white people rescuing each other from the flooding. A misleading article title like this can send some retard on a shooting rampage and I don't need to remind people that there are a lot of innocent cops out there getting killed right now.  

 

That being said, the joke was obviously in bad taste and I disapprove of it for the exact same reason as I disagree with the title of this thread.

You don't heal wounds by ingoring them: that's how they fester and kill you.



Love the "this doesn't effect me because I haven't lived the life of those who are on edge daily for the color of their skin so people should shut up" comments.

When you live your life hoping you're not in the wrong place at the wrong time, are at the mercy of the majority because there are way less of your skin color around, and are possibly discriminated against(housing, workforce and even dining) on a daily basis, you too might develop some hypervigilance for people skirting the line with these kinds of jokes.



"You should be banned. Youre clearly flaming the president and even his brother who you know nothing about. Dont be such a partisan hack"

IkePoR said:

Love the "this doesn't effect me because I haven't lived the life of those who are on edge daily for the color of their skin so people should shut up" comments.

When you live your life hoping you're not in the wrong place at the wrong time, are at the mercy of the majority because there are way less of your skin color around, and are possibly discriminated against(housing, workforce and even dining) on a daily basis, you too might develop some hypervigilance for people skirting the line with these kinds of jokes.

I thought you were talking about the police till the very end of the comment, lol. 



AngryLittleAlchemist said:
IkePoR said:

Love the "this doesn't effect me because I haven't lived the life of those who are on edge daily for the color of their skin so people should shut up" comments.

When you live your life hoping you're not in the wrong place at the wrong time, are at the mercy of the majority because there are way less of your skin color around, and are possibly discriminated against(housing, workforce and even dining) on a daily basis, you too might develop some hypervigilance for people skirting the line with these kinds of jokes.

I thought you were talking about the police till the very end of the comment, lol. 

It can apply to police.  It's a stressful job.  Except for the discriminating part, it all applies, at least until they take off the uniform at the end of the night.



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IkePoR said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

I thought you were talking about the police till the very end of the comment, lol. 

It can apply to police.  It's a stressful job.  Except for the discriminating part, it all applies, at least until they take off the uniform at the end of the night.

I think it's fair to say that police do at least feel discriminated against, that's why the officer made a passive aggressive sarcastic comment. They feel beat up. 

But I was just laughing at my own lack of reading comphrension, lol. 

Also, Sonic would never do such a thing as an officer of the lawl!



Insidb said:
Superman4 said:

If the comment isn’t being denied as jest than the rest of your statement is clearly BS. Joking doesn’t make anything fact, it doesn’t mean that he won’t protect a black person or even make the same joke to them and change the race " We only kill white people ".  It doesn’t validate a fear, it validates the media portrayal of police violence against black people. 

 

I suppose you are one of those people who believe that the prison system is made up of a majority of black people because police are racist? That they didn’t actually commit whatever crime they are convicted of? 

There are definitely instances where the police act out of fear and kill someone for no reason, it happens to all races. When you look at high crime rate areas though, most of them are inner cities with a higher black population.  Take a city like Chicago, how many murders this week? How many of those murders happened in predominantly black neighborhoods? I suppose it’s some white guy going around killing people in black neighborhoods, or maybe the cops just targeting that area for no reason. I’m not saying that all races don’t commit crime or that all black people are criminals. I do however refuse to dismiss the fact that areas with predominantly black population seem to be areas with the highest crime rates, Baltimore and Chicago for instance.

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-09-29/race-and-homicide-in-america-by-the-numbers

 

 

1) Unarmed black men are shot by police at the same rate as armed white men.

2) Black youths are shot by police at 21 times the rate at white youths.

3) There is a no discernible difference between the rate of marijuana usage of whites and blacks, but blacks are are criminalized at a distinctly higher rate.

4) The pay-for-play private prison system has targeted and unjustly incarcerated minority youths at a much higher rate.

5) Blacks receive longer and harsher sentences for the same offenses as their white counterparts.

6) There have been recent convictions of judges involved in these discriminatory activities.

 

This is the problem with not understanding the context of statistics: as they say in baseball, "a bloop single looks like a hard line drive in the box score."

if you're gonna make claims like that, where's your source?



Insidb said:

You don't heal wounds by ingoring them: that's how they fester and kill you.

This video title (and I am not specifically attacking the OP on this) provides a direct implication that a police officer has stated with intent that his force will only kill black people.  The title is a complete distortion of the truth because it doesn't mention "tasteless joke" anywhere or even lends to that implication unless somebody actually goes through the content.  meanwhile, we have the mainstream media like CNN now labelling "ordinary" Trump supporters as being white supremicists when poll after poll show that the vast majority of Trump supporters oppose racism, which never gets talked about by said media outlet (except at the very bottom of articles) and so people are left with a completely lopsided view.  We now even have violent riots erupting in the name of "anti-facism" where radical leftists are openly attacking anybody who identifies as conservative by equating them to "Nazi's."  

You are not healing anything by telling people that a cop admits to only killing black people and leaving out important context.  It's just one more thing to divide society.  And no, these divisions do not already exist, Houston proves this.  The division exists only if we let it, and I say that we need to focus on what unites us right now and not give undue attention to the voices that want to create a civil war unless they commit some kind of criminal act.

VGPolyglot said:

My title is truthful, he says that exact quote. Also, VGC has a chracter limit for titles when making threads, I can't have a long, drawn-out explanation in my title.

I believe that the title is untruthful by ommission since it does not convey the true intent of the officers statement which was one of tasteless sarcasm.  That being said, I also realize that it is not your title but rather the title of the video and it is common practice to quote article titles in thread headers.  My apologies. my anger was with how the media reports things and not you specifically and I should have expressed this better.



The US is geared towards targeting those of colour. When an officer of the law provides more ammunition for those being oppressed to fear them; this creates more distrust of the system that harms them.

"For Black offenders, the results are once again limited to drug trafficking offenses and to
male offenders. The typical Black drug trafficker receives a sentence about ten percent longer than
a similar White drug trafficker. This translates into a sentence about seven months longer."

- https://www.ussc.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/research-and-publications/research-projects-and-surveys/miscellaneous/15-year-study/chap4.pdf


http://www.sentencingproject.org/criminal-justice-facts/


Those who deny the very nature of the US systematically oppressing those of colour are very unaware of this harsh reality. Those who are black are more likely to receive harsher sentences than those who are white. The American justice system is flawed. The US also has a very trigger happy police force, all one must do is compare the US police force to those in more stable countries. The issues within the US need to be addressed and altered pragmatically. Ignoring the problem will not resolve anything.



ResidentToxy said:
The US is geared towards targeting those of colour. When an officer of the law provides more ammunition for those being oppressed to fear them; this creates more distrust of the system that harms them.

"For Black offenders, the results are once again limited to drug trafficking offenses and to
male offenders. The typical Black drug trafficker receives a sentence about ten percent longer than
a similar White drug trafficker. This translates into a sentence about seven months longer."

- https://www.ussc.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/research-and-publications/research-projects-and-surveys/miscellaneous/15-year-study/chap4.pdf


http://www.sentencingproject.org/criminal-justice-facts/


Those who deny the very nature of the US systematically oppressing those of colour are very unaware of this harsh reality. Those who are black are more likely to receive harsher sentences than those who are white. The American justice system is flawed. The US also has a very trigger happy police force, all one must do is compare the US police force to those in more stable countries. The issues within the US need to be addressed and altered pragmatically. Ignoring the problem will not resolve anything.

Did it take in account of the criminal histories with sentencing? I bet not. That data is cherry picked to fit their conclusion before they even started to look at the data. You can tell by the overall tone of writer. Blacks are more likely to go to jail because they are statistically more likely to commit crime.  It's that simple. It's just like the mugging rates, the murder rates and arrests in general. That's at their feet. It's really odd they didn't mention one bit about their crime rates even though it's related to what they were talking about. 

You guys tend to frame this stuff as blacks are being arrested more and staying in jail longer because of racism when that's not true. That's a political slogan. If it was true then the disproportionate amount of arrests of blacks wouldn't match the disproportionate amount of crimes blacks commit or the disproportionate amount of convictions of blacks. If a ton of people were being arrested but not convicted or charged because they weren't commiting the alleged crimes, you'd might have a point on cops but..... For your scenario to be true, the cops, lawyers, judges, prison staff would have to on this conspiracy against blacks. That's just lunacy to suggest something like this these days with all of the SJWs ready to pounce on anything. Also, alot of black people work as laywers, cops and judges but yet black criminals are treated the same. 

How about we just go with the first thing people should have asked themselves on stuff like this. Did the person(s) just commit more crimes and that's why they're being arrested and sentenced more? If they statistically commit more crimes, why wouldn't the cops pay more attention to them?