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JakDaSnack on 30 August 2017
VGPolyglot said:
JakDaSnack said:

lol same joke as the person above, but you are right any top 100 list that differs from yours is wrong.

Not really. I'm saying that some people don't need "nostalgia glasses", i.e. they prefer modern games, while others do, i.e. they prefer retro games.

This isn't about what you prefer, this is about what is better.  By claiming a 20 year old game is better, you are spitting on the countless hours and dedication of game developers over the last 20 years.  Every genre has been improved upon, and new technologies has opened the doors to countless possibilities.  I will always admire and respect older games, but I'm honest enough to admit when a game has been dethroned.



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deskpro2k3 on 30 August 2017
Pavolink said:
DaveTheMinion13 said:
Breath of the Wild #1? Lol whatever floats Edges boat, its their list

It is number 1. No doubt about it. Fact.

it's a garbage list tho. Fact



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routsounmanman on 30 August 2017

OK seriously where is Persona 5? And why is Dark Souls higher than Demon's Souls?



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AngryLittleAlchemist on 30 August 2017
pokoko said:
Those saying, "opinions shouldn't be criticized," it's certainly not that simple. This list isn't titled "my favorite games" , it's supposedly "the greatest games of all-time." That's a substantial difference. We look for a meaningful degree of objectivity from professional publications. Completely subjective lists are only meaningful to the person who wrote them. Otherwise, all reviewers would be throwing out arbitrary scores like Jim Sterling and they would be useless.

This looks exactly like a "my favorite games" list. Taken as a "greatest games" list, it looks silly.

Objectivity does not exist in art. Furthermore, your favorite games ARE the best games of all time - just to you though. 

Think about it. If your favorite film is American History X but you think the best movie is Citizen Kane, then the movie that accomplished it's intent the most is the one that captivated your attention and mindshare enough to become your favorite movie. Therefore, even if it has more flaws than the latter, it also accomplishes it's goal more, and those flaws don't stand in the way of making it the movie that takes up your mindshare the most - so it would be the best movie despite it's flaws. 

It's just a bad list because it feels disingenous and/or lacking in substance.



Veknoid_Outcast on 30 August 2017
routsounmanman said:
OK seriously where is Persona 5? And why is Dark Souls higher than Demon's Souls?

Glad to see another Demon's Souls > Dark Souls guy :)



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Ultrashroomz on 30 August 2017

*Doesn't see Persona 5*

*triggered*



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routsounmanman on 30 August 2017
Veknoid_Outcast said:
routsounmanman said:
OK seriously where is Persona 5? And why is Dark Souls higher than Demon's Souls?

Glad to see another Demon's Souls > Dark Souls guy :)

More like >>>>>>> type of guy ;)



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pokoko on 30 August 2017
AngryLittleAlchemist said:
pokoko said:
Those saying, "opinions shouldn't be criticized," it's certainly not that simple. This list isn't titled "my favorite games" , it's supposedly "the greatest games of all-time." That's a substantial difference. We look for a meaningful degree of objectivity from professional publications. Completely subjective lists are only meaningful to the person who wrote them. Otherwise, all reviewers would be throwing out arbitrary scores like Jim Sterling and they would be useless.

This looks exactly like a "my favorite games" list. Taken as a "greatest games" list, it looks silly.

Wrong. Objectivity does not exist in art. Furthermore, your favorite games ARE the best games of all time - just to you though. 

Think about it. If your favorite film is American History X but you think the best movie is Citizen Kane, then the movie that accomplished it's intent the most is the one that captivated your attention and mindshare enough to become your favorite movie. Therefore, even if it has more flaws than the latter, it also accomplishes it's goal more, and those flaws don't stand in the way of making it the movie that takes up your mindshare the most - so it would be the best movie despite it's flaws. 

It's just a bad list because it feels disingenous and/or lacking in substance.

Wrong.  We're not talking about art, we're talking about video-games.

Also, your last sentence makes no sense.  "There is no objectivity but it's a bad list"?  



MTZehvor on 30 August 2017

er...Destiny at 36...?

I realize opinions are subjective and all, but...a group of game journalists really decided that that was the 36th best game ever made?



Flilix on 30 August 2017

Actually, the list isn't that bad. Compared too BotW, every other game is pretty mediocre. Therefore, the rest of the top 100 isn't very important anymore. So they can just take 99 random games, it won't make much of a difference.