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ThisGuyFooks said:
Alkibiádēs said:

So outside of The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Arms, Splatoon 2, Mario + Rabbids: Kingdom Battle, Sonic Mania and Shovel Knight there's nothing to play? Right...

Tell me, what must-have games did the PS4 and Xbox One have 6 months after launch?

His point was that Nintendo withheld Wii U games to be ported to the Switch.

The Wii U literally was abandoned years before the Switch released.

There were heavy hitters releasing for the PS3 when the PS4 came out.

God of War and Gran Turismo suffered for it if you look at the sales numbers. 

So Nintendo did the right thing. 



"The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must" - Thoukydides

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Alkibiádēs said:
ThisGuyFooks said:

His point was that Nintendo withheld Wii U games to be ported to the Switch.

The Wii U literally was abandoned years before the Switch released.

There were heavy hitters releasing for the PS3 when the PS4 came out.

God of War and Gran Turismo suffered for it if you look at the sales numbers. 

So Nintendo did the right thing. 

Gran Turismo 6 dissapointed and it wasnt a mainline God of War. Both sold fine.

But still, DaveTheMinion13 point still stands.

Nintendo witheld Wii U projects so they could release them on their new console.



Baddman said:
Kuksenkov said:

The games were/are there for both consoles, you just picked the ones that you wanted.

 

People gave the "watered down" Wii U versions a lot of hate, but they ignore the fact that some of those games had exclusive content, included dlc, and additional content in some cases. Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Wii U Edition, Sonic & All Stars Racing Transformed, Need For Speed Most Wanted U, Ninja Gaiden Razors Edge, Warriors Orochi 3 Hyper. 

wait i also had ninja gaiden razors edge(as a gift) hated it btw.  as for the other games...i would not buy those games on my 360 much less the wii u versions.

d21lewis said:

I got mine on launch day also. Came home with a copy of Nintendo Land (pack in), New Super Mario, and Black Ops 2. Soon after, I had Batman Arkham City, Lego City, Mighty Switch Force HD, Little Inferno, Trine 2, andNinja Gaiden 3.

 

Got a Switch on day one, as well. I currently have Zelda (which I could have gotten on WiiU), Arms, Mario Kart (which is 90% the same as the WiiU game I also own), Splatoon 2, Sonic Mania, Fate Extella, Shantae 1/2 Genie Hero, NBA Playgrounds, Snipper Clips, Wonder Boy, Blaster Master, and Fast RMX.

 

I probably play the Switch more but there was plenty to play at launch in my home.

I already owned arkham city on 360.  as for the other games..i think callin those good games are a stretch but just my opinion

Also..bro lol I say this in the most Polite way but lawd  those list of games (both consoles)look like trash with a few exceptions

Man, let me tell you about me and Arkham games!

-Arkham Asylum: PS3, Xbox 360, GotY version again on 360

-Arkham City: Xbox 360 and WiiU (actual better version but has performance issues)

-Arkham Origins: WiiU and PS3

-Arkham Origins Blackgate: 3DS and Xbox 360

-Arkham Knight: PS4

-Return to Arkham: PS4

 

And if they make Origins available for Xbox One, I'm gonna rebuy Origins, Return, and Arkham Knight digitally on Xbox One. It's my secret shame and evidence that I'm not good with money. 😢

 

And yeah, not a list of AAA games on either system. When a console launches, I take what I can get. You should have seen my first year of PS2 titles...



Alkibiádēs said:
d21lewis said:

Just pointing out that Wii games do work on the WiiU in "off TV mode". The controller even has a built-in sensor bar.

That's not going to do much for me on the train though. Also that 480p... Yuck!

You said Wii games couldn't be played on portable mode on the WiiU so they shouldn't count (and they shouldn't). But ZERO WiiU games are portable!! By that logic, zero games should count!!



Alkibiádēs said:
Zekkyou said:
Given this includes WiiU ports, should we include the Wii's library as part of the WiiU's launch? I'm half joking, but it'd make for a fun discussion. I bet we could come up with a variety of compelling arguments for both yes and no.

- Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is not a port

- Zelda came out at the same time as the Wii U version and has a higher resolution and better frame rate

- You can play Switch games on the go, but you can't play Wii games on the go with your Wii U. The small screen makes the games look much better as well. 

So no, you shouldn't include the Wii's library as part of the Wii U's launch. 

Your points here are all valid reasons an individual might say no, but their value is also all entirely dependent on said individual. It's similar to how on a fundamental level a remaster and a cross-gen release can be the same, yet many would opt against using the former word to describe the latter even in those instances (it's similarly probably why we see MK8D differently; i spend most of my gaming time on PC, and there it'd be considered a well done GOTY port rather than a remaster).

As i said i'm half joking (and i personally wouldn't include them), but it makes for a fun discussion because the majority of conclusions require a degree of subjective consensus. There's nothing about 'library at launch' that gives any inherent value to the technical state of a game, how it can be played, etc. Change the circumstances slightly and those same reasons can be used to back yes.



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Nintendo has really turned it around with the Switch. I'm excited for the mainline Pokemon release!



d21lewis said:
Alkibiádēs said:

That's not going to do much for me on the train though. Also that 480p... Yuck!

You said Wii games couldn't be played on portable mode on the WiiU so they shouldn't count (and they shouldn't). But ZERO WiiU games are portable!! By that logic, zero games should count!!

No, I said you can't play games on the go with the Wii U because you need to be in the proximity of your home console. 



"The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must" - Thoukydides

Zekkyou said:
Given this includes WiiU ports, should we include the Wii's library as part of the WiiU's launch? I'm half joking, but it'd make for a fun discussion. I bet we could come up with a variety of compelling arguments for both yes and no.

No, because everybody owned a Wii. Not everybody owned a Wii U. 

Yes, because being able to trade in your Wii towards the purchase of a Wii U made the system more affordable? 



Alkibiádēs said:
ThisGuyFooks said:

His point was that Nintendo withheld Wii U games to be ported to the Switch.

The Wii U literally was abandoned years before the Switch released.

There were heavy hitters releasing for the PS3 when the PS4 came out.

God of War and Gran Turismo suffered for it if you look at the sales numbers. 

So Nintendo did the right thing. 

But The Last of Us didn't ... lol



On the one hand I want to applaud Nintendo for supporting their system with some of the best software lineups imaginable in a consoles first year - at least exclusive wise.

On the other? I, as a gamer personally, am disappointed. Splatoon 2 I thought would be significantly different due to the gimmicks of the campaign being in the multiplayer, the new weapons, and some of the new game modes. It's different, some might argue different enough for a sequel, but it's just kind of "meh" to me as a product. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is a complete rip off and not a game i'm looking to buy. Arms is fun but limited. And Breath of the Wild ... well .. I played about 70 hours, and I really enjoy about 60 of those ... but I had to pause the game for weeks because I simply don't have the drive to finish the game. So much about it could have been done so much better, and it won't have the replay value of other Zelda games either.

Ultimately, everything except Arms is more or less available on Wii U too. I think Switch's library is very impressive from a business perspective, but as a gamer? I'm waiting for Mario Odyssey, Fire Emblem Warriors and Xenoblade 2. I haven't turned on my Switch in weeks though, I'm kind of hoping i'm just Switched-out and that when I return i'll enjoy the software more.