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I have lost most interest in RPG's. I used to look so forward to them. Here's why.

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Have RPGs lost their magic?

Yes. 70 36.65%
 
No. 89 46.60%
 
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JonDan said:
Oh boy!, I think U are exagerating, I mean we still have good turn based rpgs, like Persona 5, Ni no Kuni, Xenoblade Chronicles, Pokémon, Fire Emblem, Disgaea

These games aren't turn-based.



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Mar1217 said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

Sorry that was the best way to describe it in a single sentence. There's a repro cart in a game shop for the Super Famicom version. I've had my eye on it for a while now. 

Is it SMT1 or 2 ?

I think it's SMT1



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Nautilus said:
Rem87919394 said:
With open world rpgs like Skyrim, Fallout, etc. Jrpgs just can't complete. They'll sell well in Japan but outside of Japan they don't anymore. The lineal paths and lack of choices have hurt jrpgs

Thats just not true.Nier Automata, Nioh, Dark Souls and many more had and has excellent sales in the west, and they are all JRPGs.Now, if you mean turn based RPGs, there are FE, Pokemon, Persona, DQ(of which I have a very good feeling that XI will do very well on the west) Bravely Default and many other smaller and bigger franchises finds succeesses in the west.You dont need to sell millions upon millions to be considered a succeess.

Your first list of names aren't your traditional jrpg. They're way more action oriented. They didn't have excellent sales in west. Don't know what your idea of excellent sales. Skyrim had excellent sales



You play Child Of Light?



 

 

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routsounmanman said:
Try Persona 5. Or better, Shin Megami Tensei IV. You can thank me later.

I would, but as a Christian, the satanic themes are just too much for me.

Angelus said:
Play Divitiny: Original Sin. The battles aren't random (though there's a few exceptions), but it's the best turn based RPG I've played in many years

It sounds anti Christian. I am a Christian. Maybe the name is misleading?

Funny saying this. But it seems you are OK with Dragonball where God is an alien from a different planet which Freezer blows latee up and God will fuse with the son of the devil to become stronger.



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Rem87919394 said:
Nautilus said:

Thats just not true.Nier Automata, Nioh, Dark Souls and many more had and has excellent sales in the west, and they are all JRPGs.Now, if you mean turn based RPGs, there are FE, Pokemon, Persona, DQ(of which I have a very good feeling that XI will do very well on the west) Bravely Default and many other smaller and bigger franchises finds succeesses in the west.You dont need to sell millions upon millions to be considered a succeess.

Your first list of names aren't your traditional jrpg. They're way more action oriented. They didn't have excellent sales in west. Don't know what your idea of excellent sales. Skyrim had excellent sales

My idea of excellent sales are those sales that exceed the publisher expectation.Your idea of needing to sell tens of millions of units to be considered excellent is ludriculous.I mean, you can count on your hands how many franchises can achieve that.Skyrim, COD, Mario are on their own level in terms of sales.

And those games may not be tradicional JRPGs, but they are JRPGs nonetheless.After all, the J stands for Japanese, no?Otherwise, what genre do they belong to?Western RPGs?They may be action focused, but they are still RPGs that comes from Japan.



It's hard to call a game an RPG if it lacks all semblance of a turn-based mechanic, as that mechanic is really the definitive mark of the genre.

Games like Xenoblade has action involved, but the selection of attacks and the ATB system is still roughly an evolution of turn-based mechanics. I do agree though, it's not quite as strategic - especially in the first Xenoblade where the cool downs are reduced so much that that the game eventually devolves into spamming every move that appears on the screen as quickly as possible, unless playing Melia.

 

Anyway, for classic turn-based RPGs, the DS was one of the best consoles of all time for RPGs: it had dozens. The 3DS wasn't too shabby either with more RPG focused Fire Emblem games. Then there is the Wii, which had the eShop and the virtual console with dozens more RPGs, both new and classic - and including a sequel to Final Fantasy II (FF4) which actually turned out very well.



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On the topic of adding the "J" to RPGs. I never understood how being Japanese was a genre. From a mechanical POV, there's more turn-based RPGs from Japan, but there are also more strategy and action RPGs as well; more RPGs in general, as Japan is the biggest market for RPGs in the world.

Tje only real mark of difference that these so-called "JRPGs" have is the anime art style. But then why aren't other genres called J-something either, as the anime style is used in most games made in Japan period.



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The problem with the genre as a whole is that it has grown very stale. Storytelling took a nosedive with the transition to 3D, and so did many gameplay factors that took a back-seat to other 'production values' improvements. Look at a series like Final Fantasy, gradually becoming worse: No one can agree fully where the series really dived, but for me Final Fantasy VII was the beginning of the end. By the time of Final Fantasy VIII one could tell that the series was beginning to lose its spark, and even though IX was a better game, it was not able to prevent the slump.

Now, other RPGs suffered from similar fates. I used to consider myself an RPG buff, loving stuff from Diablo to Skies of Arcadia, and from Legend of the Dragoon to Shining Force, but as I grew older and older I found myself more and more disinterested with the genre in general.

Most RPGs now are completely unoriginal, derivative, samey, and have largely ridiculous storylines and character development. RPGs have had their day in the sun. There is still room for something quality here and there, but overall the genre should remain where it belonged: in the 90s.



I agree 100%