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ThisGuyFooks said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

 

The problem  is that they cannot make ips on level with the competiton. They should've never hired Phil if they didn't want him spilling the developmental beans.

Exhibit a:

 

In part is it about having an answer to Uncharted 4? The comparison between the last Tomb Raider and Uncharted has been made.

Phil Spencer: Totally. I'm a big fan of Uncharted and I wish we had an action adventure game of that ilk. We've started some, and we've looked at them. But we don't have one today of that quality. This is an opportunity.

People push me as the content guy, shouldn't it all be about the content you're building? I want to own all of the hits on our platform. Well, not all of them - that's too much. But I want to have a stable of hits on our platform that we own. Absolutely. That's fundamental to us having a successful platform. When a unique opportunity comes up, I've got to go look at that. And this was a unique opportunity.

 

 

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-08-18-xbox-boss-phil-spencer-makes-case-for-tomb-raider-exclusivity-deal

Wow! That's bad.

He shouldnt have said that.

I like Phil.... he tells the truth. :)



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SegataSanshiro said:
Sony also has this habit of announcing games 2-3 years before release. 7 years in TLG's case.

It was actually 9 But the difference is that it was actually worth it. Crackdown 3...

Lets just say that MS should better select their exclusive games.



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ThisGuyFooks said:
DonFerrari said:
Well no shit sherlock...

So we have lovely Phill sling shit on Sony for announcing games to early then they postponing their games (besides doing that since ever on early announcements) to now someone else admitting it.

That is why all the suits must be more level headed if they are going to throw some jabs here and there.

Aaaron Greenberg had to eat some crow when they signed the deal with Taco Bell, and he talked shit about Sony when they did the same.

Life is a Boomerang people!

Praising the competition warrants less crows than slinging shit.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

S.T.A.G.E. said:
ThisGuyFooks said:

Wow! That's bad.

He shouldnt have said that.

I like Phil.... he tells the truth. :)

Mainly when talking about the commitment on 1st party and that they are increasing funds on it.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Nah, they announced it the perfect time. Everyone wants to see the same game trotted out at every conference for 3 years. I for one will be very upset if God of War shows up before 2020.



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DonFerrari said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

I like Phil.... he tells the truth. :)

Mainly when talking about the commitment on 1st party and that they are increasing funds on it.

Lol if moneyhatting third party that had a similar game to Sony because they couldn't make a game on par is the case. Haha



Normchacho said:
Nah, they announced it the perfect time. Everyone wants to see the same game trotted out at every conference for 3 years. I for one will be very upset if God of War shows up before 2020.

God of war is due early next year along with days gone, Detroit and Spider-Man. lol Microsoft better be ready.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
ThisGuyFooks said:

It is difficult to make new Ip's when their biggest studios are confined to a single franchise, with some Rare exceptions. No pun intended

 

The problem  is that they cannot make ips on level with the competiton. They should've never hired Phil if they didn't want him spilling the developmental beans.

Exhibit a:

 

In part is it about having an answer to Uncharted 4? The comparison between the last Tomb Raider and Uncharted has been made.

Phil Spencer: Totally. I'm a big fan of Uncharted and I wish we had an action adventure game of that ilk. We've started some, and we've looked at them. But we don't have one today of that quality. This is an opportunity.

People push me as the content guy, shouldn't it all be about the content you're building? I want to own all of the hits on our platform. Well, not all of them - that's too much. But I want to have a stable of hits on our platform that we own. Absolutely. That's fundamental to us having a successful platform. When a unique opportunity comes up, I've got to go look at that. And this was a unique opportunity.

 

 

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-08-18-xbox-boss-phil-spencer-makes-case-for-tomb-raider-exclusivity-deal

"spilling the developmental beans" lol, as if it's some kind of secret that Microsoft or Nintendo would want an IP as big as Uncharted. Do you think Sony wouldn't have been thrilled if PlayStation All Stars Super Battle Supreme Royale became the next Smash Bros? I mean, of course they would. You think Sony wouldn't love a FPS series as big as Halo? Wouldn't Microsoft love for Horizon to sell as much as Mario Kart. These aren't trade secrets being revealed or anything, it's common sense.

Since you're on about Tomb Raider, why did Sony sign it to an exclusive deal during the PSone days? Was it because their own games were weak and they were incapable of delivering something as good, or did they just see a strong IP that could fill a whole in their offerings? Again, it's just common sense. You think Sony wouldn't have been thrilled for The Order to be the next Gears? Please.



LudicrousSpeed said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

 

The problem  is that they cannot make ips on level with the competiton. They should've never hired Phil if they didn't want him spilling the developmental beans.

Exhibit a:

 

In part is it about having an answer to Uncharted 4? The comparison between the last Tomb Raider and Uncharted has been made.

Phil Spencer: Totally. I'm a big fan of Uncharted and I wish we had an action adventure game of that ilk. We've started some, and we've looked at them. But we don't have one today of that quality. This is an opportunity.

People push me as the content guy, shouldn't it all be about the content you're building? I want to own all of the hits on our platform. Well, not all of them - that's too much. But I want to have a stable of hits on our platform that we own. Absolutely. That's fundamental to us having a successful platform. When a unique opportunity comes up, I've got to go look at that. And this was a unique opportunity.

 

 

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-08-18-xbox-boss-phil-spencer-makes-case-for-tomb-raider-exclusivity-deal

"spilling the developmental beans" lol, as if it's some kind of secret that Microsoft or Nintendo would want an IP as big as Uncharted. Do you think Sony wouldn't have been thrilled if PlayStation All Stars Super Battle Supreme Royale became the next Smash Bros? I mean, of course they would. You think Sony wouldn't love a FPS series as big as Halo? Wouldn't Microsoft love for Horizon to sell as much as Mario Kart. These aren't trade secrets being revealed or anything, it's common sense.

Since you're on about Tomb Raider, why did Sony sign it to an exclusive deal during the PSone days? Was it because their own games were weak and they were incapable of delivering something as good, or did they just see a strong IP that could fill a whole in their offerings? Again, it's just common sense. You think Sony wouldn't have been thrilled for The Order to be the next Gears? Please.

Lol do you honestly believe nintnedo wants an uncharted?? Haha... not their style and that's what makes them special. They know how to succeed at doing their own thing. THe only thing nintnedo would want from Sony or Microsoft would be their third party. 

Sony and Microsoft both want Nintendos titles and have both tried to emulate smash and failed.playstation allstars was a better try than small arms. Luckily for us Sony is starting to stay in their lane. Micoroft has no lane. They will take anything. That's be why they had so many third party flops. They need know where they stand with their audience and stick with it.



JRPGfan said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Its not unusual for games to be announced before development has really started.

This wasnt that though, its not like the new Metroid, where all you saw was a logo.

When it was announced it had already been abit in developement, since they had trailers ready for it.

Crackdown has probably seen 5years of developement, when it releases.

You may be confusing CGI trailer with gameplay, that was 2014. There was also physics tech demo to demonstrate what the cloud does, but actual gameplay didn't come until. Maybe development was 4 or 5 years, either way its not that uncommon.



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