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Zoombael on 25 August 2017
AngryLittleAlchemist said:
Turkish said:

Actually no, Nintendo isn't worth more than Sony right now

Also your thread doesn't follow your title, you say it was never doomed, yet you only list the things that's been happening since last summer, ignoring the doom years of the Wii U.

PS4 beats Switch launch aligned too. Your entire thread has everything wrong, was this necessary, which Sony fan angered you?

I'm pretty sure they are .. correct me if i'm wrong though. Also to be honest, a lot of Sony fans can be dicks regarding Nintendo's success. A lot of people were straight up hoping the Switch would fail before it's launch. It doesn't help that everyone who's correcting him in this thread, you included, are using very argumentative or aggressive attitudes toward it. "Your entire thread has everything wrong, which Sony fan angered you?" - Not surprising why some Nintendo fans are still defensive.

Still, I agree with you when you put attitude aside. I'm seriously getting tired of Nintendo fans making threads that are replies to stuff said back in January. Yes, we get it, everybody was wrong about the Switch(except me lol). We're not mind readers, sorry that as some put some people said Nintendo are doomed. You don't have to defend them 7-6 months after the fact. 

Besides, this is all semantics. I don't think most people, ESPECIALLY on this site, thought that Nintendo would exit the console market after Switch "flopping", or that Nintendo would be bankrupt. When people say "Nintendo is doomed" it's more like a saying you use to summarize what Nintendo's status is, and honestly Nintendo has been almost "doomed" for two generations(6th and 8th)

Done.

 

https://www.forbes.com/companies/sony/

 

https://www.forbes.com/companies/nintendo/



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AngryLittleAlchemist on 25 August 2017
Zoombael said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

I'm pretty sure they are .. correct me if i'm wrong though. Also to be honest, a lot of Sony fans can be dicks regarding Nintendo's success. A lot of people were straight up hoping the Switch would fail before it's launch. It doesn't help that everyone who's correcting him in this thread, you included, are using very argumentative or aggressive attitudes toward it. "Your entire thread has everything wrong, which Sony fan angered you?" - Not surprising why some Nintendo fans are still defensive.

Still, I agree with you when you put attitude aside. I'm seriously getting tired of Nintendo fans making threads that are replies to stuff said back in January. Yes, we get it, everybody was wrong about the Switch(except me lol). We're not mind readers, sorry that as some put some people said Nintendo are doomed. You don't have to defend them 7-6 months after the fact. 

Besides, this is all semantics. I don't think most people, ESPECIALLY on this site, thought that Nintendo would exit the console market after Switch "flopping", or that Nintendo would be bankrupt. When people say "Nintendo is doomed" it's more like a saying you use to summarize what Nintendo's status is, and honestly Nintendo has been almost "doomed" for two generations(6th and 8th)

Done.

 

https://www.forbes.com/companies/sony/

 

https://www.forbes.com/companies/nintendo/

ok thanks



The_Yoda on 25 August 2017
Zoombael said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

I'm pretty sure they are .. correct me if i'm wrong though. Also to be honest, a lot of Sony fans can be dicks regarding Nintendo's success. A lot of people were straight up hoping the Switch would fail before it's launch. It doesn't help that everyone who's correcting him in this thread, you included, are using very argumentative or aggressive attitudes toward it. "Your entire thread has everything wrong, which Sony fan angered you?" - Not surprising why some Nintendo fans are still defensive.

Still, I agree with you when you put attitude aside. I'm seriously getting tired of Nintendo fans making threads that are replies to stuff said back in January. Yes, we get it, everybody was wrong about the Switch(except me lol). We're not mind readers, sorry that as some put some people said Nintendo are doomed. You don't have to defend them 7-6 months after the fact. 

Besides, this is all semantics. I don't think most people, ESPECIALLY on this site, thought that Nintendo would exit the console market after Switch "flopping", or that Nintendo would be bankrupt. When people say "Nintendo is doomed" it's more like a saying you use to summarize what Nintendo's status is, and honestly Nintendo has been almost "doomed" for two generations(6th and 8th)

Done.

 

https://www.forbes.com/companies/sony/

 

https://www.forbes.com/companies/nintendo/

They still have Iwata listed as Cheif Exec ...



AltarofKez on 25 August 2017

Sorry, but Nintendo will remain doomed until we collectively find a better clickbait subject to bicker about when we're bored.



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VGPolyglot on 25 August 2017

The console wars is like a soap opera, everything is over-exaggerated.



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JWeinCom on 25 August 2017
Zoombael said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

I'm pretty sure they are .. correct me if i'm wrong though. Also to be honest, a lot of Sony fans can be dicks regarding Nintendo's success. A lot of people were straight up hoping the Switch would fail before it's launch. It doesn't help that everyone who's correcting him in this thread, you included, are using very argumentative or aggressive attitudes toward it. "Your entire thread has everything wrong, which Sony fan angered you?" - Not surprising why some Nintendo fans are still defensive.

Still, I agree with you when you put attitude aside. I'm seriously getting tired of Nintendo fans making threads that are replies to stuff said back in January. Yes, we get it, everybody was wrong about the Switch(except me lol). We're not mind readers, sorry that as some put some people said Nintendo are doomed. You don't have to defend them 7-6 months after the fact. 

Besides, this is all semantics. I don't think most people, ESPECIALLY on this site, thought that Nintendo would exit the console market after Switch "flopping", or that Nintendo would be bankrupt. When people say "Nintendo is doomed" it's more like a saying you use to summarize what Nintendo's status is, and honestly Nintendo has been almost "doomed" for two generations(6th and 8th)

Done.

 

https://www.forbes.com/companies/sony/

 

https://www.forbes.com/companies/nintendo/

Not done.

Market cap is based stock price.  Sony's stock price is lower than it was at the end of may.  Nintendo's is higher.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/06/26/nintendos-market-value-climbs-past-sony-corp

As of the end of June, Nintendo's market cap was higher.  That being said though, market cap is not the same as market value.  Market cap only accounts for equity.  Buying Sony for instance would mean assuming their debts, which would influence the price someone would be willing to pay for them.



Mr Puggsly on 25 August 2017

I never though Nintendo was doomed because handheld was always going strong.

BUT, their home devices are kinda only 3 of their homes consoles were a big success in my opinion. NES, SNES, and Wii. N64 was a huge decline, Gamecube was an even bigger decline, and in a post Wii world they dropped the ball with Wii U which was their great failure in my opinion (albeit having some very notable software).

We're technically at a point where Nintendo home consoles no longer exist. I know people will Switch is a home console console, but its built as a portable device first because that's where Nintendo does best. Nintendo no longer competes head on with Sony and MS because they can't.



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rjason12 on 25 August 2017

So everyone who points out the Wii U, forgets the Vita? That thing may have sold more units lifetime (not by much and with a longer lifespan) but Nintendo has had at least a dozen platinum sellers on the Wii U while the Vita has only a few first party million sellers. The Wii U may have not sold many consoles, but Nintendo sure sells a ton of Software (which as many people point out, is a great source of income for these companies).



killeryoshis on 25 August 2017

If someone is going to say Nintendo is doomed than you can say Microsoft is doomed as well since they will sell less this generation than the last. Also Sony is doomed too as they are leaving the handheld market

Honestly 8th generation kinda sucked. No one really gained anything in 8th generation. It was more of a who could lose the least than who actually won.



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Pyro as Bill on 25 August 2017
Mr Puggsly said:

I never though Nintendo was doomed because handheld was always going strong.

BUT, their home devices are kinda only 3 of their homes consoles were a big success in my opinion. NES, SNES, and Wii. N64 was a huge decline, Gamecube was an even bigger decline, and in a post Wii world they dropped the ball with Wii U which was their great failure in my opinion (albeit having some very notable software).

We're technically at a point where Nintendo home consoles no longer exist. I know people will Switch is a home console console, but its built as a portable device first because that's where Nintendo does best. Nintendo no longer competes head on with Sony and MS because they can't.

Open world (Zelda), online shooter (Splatoon) and motion control fighter (ARMS) at $60 aren't exactly the traditional Nintendo handheld lineup, are they?

rjason12 said:
So everyone who points out the Wii U, forgets the Vita? That thing may have sold more units lifetime (not by much and with a longer lifespan) but Nintendo has had at least a dozen platinum sellers on the Wii U while the Vita has only a few first party million sellers. The Wii U may have not sold many consoles, but Nintendo sure sells a ton of Software (which as many people point out, is a great source of income for these companies).

One generation without heavy 3rd party support is all it takes to put Playstation on it's knees.

Nintendo only need to get lucky once. Sony needs to be lucky always.



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