I'll still take 2017 line up for xbox one x over ps4 line. Im not into a lot of the Japanese games outside of Nioh and I did enjoy Horizon zero dawn, but that's it. However, I enjoyed Halo wars 2, I know I will enjoy Forza 7 and PUBG seems like a really fun multiplayer game with a lot of replay value.
| Soundwave said: I think people on message boards make a bigger fuss out of exclusives. Truth is I don't think much of the PS/XBox buyer base gives that much of a crap, they are buying those systems for the big gun third party IPs -- your CODs, GTAs, Destinys, Maddens, NBA2Ks, Battlefield, Star Wars Battlefront, etc. XBox One X will have all of those on top of being the most powerful system by a good margin, those are more key. The price point being a bit high I'd say is the bigger issue, but looks like early adopters are pre-ordering the thing like crazy. |
Like it or not but whether the game is exclusive or not, if its good it will create a lot of buzz. A huge part of early Xbox success was because of exclusives like Halo, Morrowind, Mech assault. A huge part of early 360 success was exclusives like Halo 3, Gears of War, and the JRPG deals made. IF crackdown was a XBX launch game and a huge hit, that would create a lot of buzz for it. But XB1 and XBX do not have that luxury.
Farsala said:
Like it or not but whether the game is exclusive or not, if its good it will create a lot of buzz. A huge part of early Xbox success was because of exclusives like Halo, Morrowind, Mech assault. A huge part of early 360 success was exclusives like Halo 3, Gears of War, and the JRPG deals made. IF crackdown was a XBX launch game and a huge hit, that would create a lot of buzz for it. But XB1 and XBX do not have that luxury. |
Looks to me this is wrong because XBox One X is selling very well from pre-order reports.
Third party multiplats are the main course for Playstation/XBox consoles. 1st party exclusives are just the "bonus". It's like a steak restaurant -- the third party big guns are the steak menu. The 1st party stuff is just the desert menu.
Sony has Uncharted/GT/God of War, MS has Halo/Forza/Gears. That's basically a wash, and not that many "regular" people (as in people who don't spend time on video game message boards) give a crap about many of the other exclusives. People want GTA, not Crackdown.
How would they go about securing exclusives let alone making them if they also hand them over to PC as well?.
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Veknoid_Outcast said:
That's an interesting take. So would you say the early success of X360 was due to PS3 blunders and not because Microsoft built a better mouse trap? |
I agree with this. Microsofts biggest success of that era was taking the mountain of third party exclusives from Sony and making them multiplat and thus served as a suitable secondary to Sony to consumers once they screwed up. This caused Sony to increase their first party investments. The results caused them to catch up to the Xbox 360. Microsoft want about to win anything.the only thing. Analysts were predicting the PS3 would overtake the 360 by 2011 but the Xbox had one last defense which was the Kinect which held off Sony for two years. Once the fad wore off the air was clear of Sony to close the gap for good in 2013. Microsoft relies on distractions because they know their first party cannot stop Sony.
| Hiku said: If you happen to be a fan of all the games you mentioned, it may not be a bad year for XBO owners. But people have different taste, and from my perspective it looks a lot slower this year than previous years, yeah. Though perhaps most importantly XBO still gets most of the third party support.
Don't forget the "niche crap" as well.
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How can somebody not like a game because of its country of origin may i ask?
The "I dont like japanese games" is so stupid with all due respect. You may not like a genre and that is perfectly fine, but labeling japanese games as a genre is stupid.
| Hiku said: If you happen to be a fan of all the games you mentioned, it may not be a bad year for XBO owners. But people have different taste, and from my perspective it looks a lot slower this year than previous years, yeah. Though perhaps most importantly XBO still gets most of the third party support.
Don't forget the "niche crap" as well.
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Thank you.
| Soundwave said: I think people on message boards make a bigger fuss out of exclusives. Truth is I don't think much of the PS/XBox buyer base gives that much of a crap, they are buying those systems for the big gun third party IPs -- your CODs, GTAs, Destinys, Maddens, NBA2Ks, Battlefield, Star Wars Battlefront, etc. XBox One X will have all of those on top of being the most powerful system by a good margin, those are more key. The price point being a bit high I'd say is the bigger issue, but looks like early adopters are pre-ordering the thing like crazy. |
Most of the buyer base doesn't give a crap about power or resolution either. The two biggest things are price and where are my friends. ps4 started with the price advantage and now all the friends are on that side, which is why MS is pushing cross platform platform play so hard. The One X is not going to make a difference as it's priced out of the casual market. All it does is make the One S look like the forgotten ugly brother.
Exclusives are a reason to buy a secondary console. The problem with XBox this gen is, that it's not giving any significant enough reason to get it as a secondary console, while ps4 and Switch do.
| Hiku said: If you happen to be a fan of all the games you mentioned, it may not be a bad year for XBO owners. But people have different taste, and from my perspective it looks a lot slower this year than previous years, yeah. Though perhaps most importantly XBO still gets most of the third party support.
Don't forget the "niche crap" as well.
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Didn't forget anything, you edited the part of my post out where I said first party and moneyhat games :) Guess I could have included Nioh, didn't know Sony published it.
Microsoft can "fix" their amount of exclusive games. They're not going to be fixing their Japan problem and the de facto standard Japanese PS games any time soon.
| Soundwave said: I think people on message boards make a bigger fuss out of exclusives. Truth is I don't think much of the PS/XBox buyer base gives that much of a crap, they are buying those systems for the big gun third party IPs -- your CODs, GTAs, Destinys, Maddens, NBA2Ks, Battlefield, Star Wars Battlefront, etc. XBox One X will have all of those on top of being the most powerful system by a good margin, those are more key. The price point being a bit high I'd say is the bigger issue, but looks like early adopters are pre-ordering the thing like crazy. |
And that's where you are wrong. 3rd party games may be bigger sellers but that does not mean that exclusives don't make a difference - they make a huge difference. Let's take The Last Guardian, for example - I am sure a few tens of thousands bought a PS4 just for that game because there is nothing like it anywhere else. Now add that to the hundreds of thousands who bought a PS4 just for Uncharted 4. And for those who will but 1 just for The Last of Us 2. As you combine that library, you'll see that the PS library os the differentiator.
Don't take my word for it - you'll see ot for yourself once the Xbox One X fails to outsell the PS4.
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