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smroadkill15 on 24 August 2017
Soundwave said:
I think people on message boards make a bigger fuss out of exclusives.

Truth is I don't think much of the PS/XBox buyer base gives that much of a crap, they are buying those systems for the big gun third party IPs -- your CODs, GTAs, Destinys, Maddens, NBA2Ks, Battlefield, Star Wars Battlefront, etc.

XBox One X will have all of those on top of being the most powerful system by a good margin, those are more key. The price point being a bit high I'd say is the bigger issue, but looks like early adopters are pre-ordering the thing like crazy.

Majority of console buyers don't care, but when games like Halo 5 and Gears 4 don't deliver like they should it makes a difference. Not that those are bad games because I've put hundreds of hours into both, but they're not as popular. If MS would have come out with a big new AAA IP as popuular as Gears and Halo they would have more support. 



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JRPGfan on 24 August 2017
jason1637 said:
Dont cancel games. Don't announce games early. Build new studios. Create or buy new IPs. Bring back fable. Iff MS does this i'll be happy.

It takes 3-4 years to make some of those games.

Even if MS did that, you wouldnt see any of it, until the next generation with Xbox Two.



Mystro-Sama on 24 August 2017

Clearly it would. Thats how Sony clawed their way back to success in the industry. MS on other hand looks like they've given up.



jason1637 on 24 August 2017
JRPGfan said:
jason1637 said:
Dont cancel games. Don't announce games early. Build new studios. Create or buy new IPs. Bring back fable. Iff MS does this i'll be happy.

It takes 3-4 years to make some of those games.

Even if MS did that, you wouldnt see any of it, until the next generation with Xbox Two.

They probably have some games that have been in devlopment for a year or two now that we dont know about. Im not sure if Xbox two is going to be a thing though.



smroadkill15 on 24 August 2017
JRPGfan said:
jason1637 said:
Dont cancel games. Don't announce games early. Build new studios. Create or buy new IPs. Bring back fable. Iff MS does this i'll be happy.

It takes 3-4 years to make some of those games.

Even if MS did that, you wouldnt see any of it, until the next generation with Xbox Two.

That's okay with me as long as MS is actually putting in effort into creating new studios and new IP's. I'm not going to stop supporting Xbox because of a terrible year but if they're not making an effort I might. 



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Turkish on 24 August 2017

All they need to do is to put a fresh new spin on their IPs like they did with Fohza:
-Halo RPG in the vein of Mass Effect (by Obsidian)
-Gears survival horror

And then:
-Conker 2
-Banjo 3
-Scalebound still hapnin
-Sunset Overdrive 2

And then partner with these 3rd party studios for an exclusive:
-Crytek
-Ready at Dawn
-Remedy

$500 million later and Xbox is suddenly very competitve.

You know what else will get all the hardcore people on forums like this and Gaf go crazy? Getting Sega to make Jet Set Radio 3 for the system.



Jedidiah-Rose on 24 August 2017
smroadkill15 said:
Jedidiah-Rose said:
Not that I'm that bothered as more of a Sony loyalist in this industry, but the answer is simple for microsoft; Stop closing all your studios, and allow them to work on their games.

I'll disagree with you on the note you make about Sony's first party output not being great, because actually if you look at it objectively it's been pretty great because of the variety they offer with their first party games and exclusive titles on offer, where as Microsoft only has a vested interest in Halo, Gears and Forza sequels at the moment. The games they have cancelled this gen have been surprising, as they looked to offer the variety that Microsoft's first party offerings have been sorely lacking.

I may not like the Xbox, but was massive fan of Ensemble Studios work for Microsoft on the Age of Empires series and look what they did to them, 2009 realistically Ensemble were at the top of their game, just finished off AoE3's second big expansion not long before and had just put out Halo Wars to decent critical praise and fan fare on the 360, yet microsoft closed them down and I have no idea why, any sane person has no idea why they did that.

Comparing Sony's first party last generation to this generation shows a difference in quality and quantity. Not what Sony has released has been bad, but besides Horizon, Uncharted 4, Infamous, and Until Dawn nothing has really stuck out. My opinion of course. 

MS closing Ensemble Studios was probably the most head scratching thing they have done. I'm happy Age of Empire is making a return but it would be much better if the original team was together. 

Well really what I think Sony does very well is just the vast variety they have on offer, it's almost the full range of platformers, action, RPG's, sandbox etc 
They do this really well on all of their of hardware releases I feel.



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S.T.A.G.E. on 24 August 2017
LudicrousSpeed said:
This has been a really bad year for MS exclusives made to look much worse because Sony started the year with Horizon, GR2, and The Show. Before 2017 though their first party/moneyhat exclusive output were very close. I think people make a mug bigger fuss about it online than it is in reality. Microsoft has had many problems this gen, exclusives isn't close to the top imho.

But yeah, more games is always better.

Both Microsoft and Sony moneyhatted. Sony just has instant penetration of Japan and more stable first party that grows by leaps and bounds.



smroadkill15 on 24 August 2017
Mystro-Sama said:
Clearly it would. Thats how Sony clawed their way back to success in the industry. MS on other hand looks like they've given up.

I don't think they've given up but it doesn't look like they are trying very hard either. I believe the Xbox budget has been cut significantly ever since Satya Nadella became CEO so they've had to be careful in what they invest in. It's probably why they've been playing it so safe this generation. 



ThisGuyFooks on 24 August 2017

That's like saying if Nintendo grabs 3rd Party Support they would be in a nice position.

Of course they would, but it is not that simple.

For Microsoft to have its own output of exclusives like Sony or Nintendo, they would have to make deep changes in their structure, which could take years, tons of years.

Will Microsoft be patient enough to wait, a decade or more (?) to get on the same level as Sony and Nintendo?

We are talking about easily Hundreds of Millions of Dollars, and we already know what some insiders are saying (Zhuge).