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IkePoR said:
shikamaru317 said:

Ugh some of those comments on the video. First some Forza fans complained about the Free FFXV Regalia DLC in Forza Horizon 3, now we have some FF fans complaining about free Assassin's Creed DLC in FFXV. Some of my fellow gamers act so entitled sometimes. These updates are free, I will never complain about free DLC. You don't like crossovers? That's perfectly fine, nobody is forcing you to play them. 

 

LMU Uncle Alfred said:

It is bizarre I will admit, but I get the sense that many that overcomplain about these strive to be the old guy in the rocking chair on a porch at 80 going "Dey don't make em like dey used too, nn durr"

 

finalrpgfantasy said:

This.  I've to admit that this is wierd, but goddamit it's FUCKING free and TOTALLY skippable.  

 

Xxain said:

Abso fuckin lutely 

Where is this fucked up attitude coming from? Why is FFXV unable to continue to add more content that gives people more reason to come back to it? Isnt what all major franchises do, especially those that took alot of time and money to make? Outside of episode DLC which amounts to 5 bucks. EVERYTHING has been free. EVERYTHING. If you beat and plated FFXV and your done with game, then be done with it. Like a big red carpet and everything should be done within your time. 

Man, it seems the more amount of people that learn a new word, the more value it's meaning loses.  I get it, entitled is a strong, meaningful word that sends a message to make people feel something.  But in this context, it's used incorrectly.

Now, some people complain about anything and everything, for no reason, even if they don't enjoy the thing they're complaining about.  But to use a blanket term to decribe everyone who criticises something you don't is unfair and - guess what - acutally entitled.  

As some others in this thread have said, the reason for a lot of fans complaining and critisizing this is because a, it's got nothing to do with Final Fantasy and makes no sense; b, to use you all's own argument against you, is free and throwaway, something meaningless that some interns at Square wasted time creating that no one cares about; and c, it shows exactly that Square-Enix has no clue what made Final Fantasy Final Fantasy.  Throwing everything but the kitchen sink at a product you spent exorbant amounts of marketing money on doesn't make a product more quality.  It shows a lack of confidence and creativity in your own product.

d, it looks bollocks.

This is a stupid post.

A. Its a crossover event. Does anything else need to be said past that? Its not suppose to have anything to do with game. Marvel vs CAPCOM has nothing to do with each of the respective series. Should it not exist? How many crossover events does Monster Hunter do that have nothing to do with Monster? FF14? Do you read Manga's/ American comics? Watch anime? Play other video games series?  How many crossover events from entirely different franchise take place in these mediums then have nothing to do with said franchise? 100's, 1000's?  

B.  You didnt use anything against anyone here. " I'm going to use your own argument against you" *goes on to not do that*.  

C. How did you get to C? There is no build up to this point at all.

You have written a lot, but havent said much of anything. 



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Xxain said:
IkePoR said:

Man, it seems the more amount of people that learn a new word, the more value it's meaning loses.  I get it, entitled is a strong, meaningful word that sends a message to make people feel something.  But in this context, it's used incorrectly.

Now, some people complain about anything and everything, for no reason, even if they don't enjoy the thing they're complaining about.  But to use a blanket term to decribe everyone who criticises something you don't is unfair and - guess what - acutally entitled.  

As some others in this thread have said, the reason for a lot of fans complaining and critisizing this is because a, it's got nothing to do with Final Fantasy and makes no sense; b, to use you all's own argument against you, is free and throwaway, something meaningless that some interns at Square wasted time creating that no one cares about; and c, it shows exactly that Square-Enix has no clue what made Final Fantasy Final Fantasy.  Throwing everything but the kitchen sink at a product you spent exorbant amounts of marketing money on doesn't make a product more quality.  It shows a lack of confidence and creativity in your own product.

d, it looks bollocks.

This is a stupid post.

A. Its a crossover event. Does anything else need to be said past that? Its not suppose to have anything to do with game. Marvel vs CAPCOM has nothing to do with each of the respective series. Should it not exist? How many crossover events does Monster Hunter do that have nothing to do with Monster? FF14? Do you read Manga's/ American comics? Watch anime? Play other video games series?  How many crossover events from entirely different franchise take place in these mediums then have nothing to do with said franchise? 100's, 1000's?  

B.  You didnt use anything against anyone here. " I'm going to use your own argument against you" *goes on to not do that*.  

C. How did you get to C? There is no build up to this point at all.

You have written a lot, but havent said much of anything. 

"I don't like what yous said, this is a stupid post" sounds like one of those fucked up attitudes you mentioned earlier.

Your first conuter point makes no sense.  MvC is a crossover project.  It's designed to be a cross over - the entire game is build around it, using the characters and their settings to create a story and game.  It's built to be it's own thing and has nothing to do with the respective series they draw from.  The same goes for any crossover built this way.

As for other series and  totally random crossovers, either the series it's happening in is built solidly and delivers a clear message that the franchise is in good hands(MonHun, One Piece) or fans could and should be asking the same questions about their series that many people in this thread have brought up.

When it comes to "it's free DLC", my point is that SE even bothered with this instead of fixing the problems many fans of the game have with the main game. "It's just free and throwaway" - then why does it exist at all?  

I got to C... by getting there?  Is that your response?

Good straw man attempt though - can't argue the points, attack the person making the points.



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This is not real Final Fantasy etc etc

Being serious, the first thing I thought when seeing this was "but why?", but then I asked myself "why not?'"
I think it's cool they're giving it for free :P though I wish the FFXV team was working on a new game instead of doing more DLC for FFXV.



I wonder if this was cross over game, what would it be.



 

The "Free" part of it makes it worth it lol



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IkePoR said:
Xxain said:

This is a stupid post.

A. Its a crossover event. Does anything else need to be said past that? Its not suppose to have anything to do with game. Marvel vs CAPCOM has nothing to do with each of the respective series. Should it not exist? How many crossover events does Monster Hunter do that have nothing to do with Monster? FF14? Do you read Manga's/ American comics? Watch anime? Play other video games series?  How many crossover events from entirely different franchise take place in these mediums then have nothing to do with said franchise? 100's, 1000's?  

B.  You didnt use anything against anyone here. " I'm going to use your own argument against you" *goes on to not do that*.  

C. How did you get to C? There is no build up to this point at all.

You have written a lot, but havent said much of anything. 

"I don't like what yous said, this is a stupid post" sounds like one of those fucked up attitudes you mentioned earlier.

Your first conuter point makes no sense.  MvC is a crossover project.  It's designed to be a cross over - the entire game is build around it, using the characters and their settings to create a story and game.  It's built to be it's own thing and has nothing to do with the respective series they draw from.  The same goes for any crossover built this way.

As for other series and  totally random crossovers, either the series it's happening in is built solidly and delivers a clear message that the franchise is in good hands(MonHun, One Piece) or fans could and should be asking the same questions about their series that many people in this thread have brought up.

When it comes to "it's free DLC", my point is that SE even bothered with this instead of fixing the problems many fans of the game have with the main game. "It's just free and throwaway" - then why does it exist at all?  

I got to C... by getting there?  Is that your response?

Good straw man attempt though - can't argue the points, attack the person making the points.

That's the point I was making with B and C; there was no points. Hell, there is not even a real point to your A, but at least it had some substance. Ultimately you were the only thing left!  Ironic you bring up a strawman argument. 

What does it matter if the game is built around it or adds it as event? A crossover is crossover and its gonna treated the same way. Its for fans of each of the eproperties to enjoy. If you dont like Marvel or CAPCOM then you probably dont give shits about Infinite. Just like if you could give a damn about Assassins Creed then this DLC means nothing to you. Hell I dont give a shit about Assassin Creed, but what about people who do? I probably wont even bother with it but SE aren't wrong/confused/lost because they're partnering with a another popular IP for a event that I dont have to bother with. 

I wanna look at your ridiculous DLC claim. I know you dont really feel this way. If we have a FF15 fan that plated FF15 months ago, sees this DLC as also an Assassin Creed fan or just somebody who thought it looked interesting, decides to turn on the game again, hasnt the DLC done its job? Hasn't the DLC justified its own existence? When Street Fighter V or Tekken 7 or Dead or Alive add "free throwaway" costumes packs, What justify their existence? That people DLed and enjoyed them, not some whiny FF15 players who didnt get what they wanted out of the games plot or people who cant get over the fact Nomura never got VS past a concept, or its not turnbased.

That is the general attitude of the "We dont like FF15 crowd". Look at your previous paragraph. It amounts to "Its ok other franchises do irrelevant crossover because I like their last games". Who here is decides if FF is safe hands?  

FF Type O has nothing but praise.

FF14 is considered to a top tier MMO. Nothing but praise.

FFX and Xll remasters, nothing but praise

FF7R is highly anticipated 

Your not the center of the world. No red carpets for you. There are people who like 15 and those that dont. What will decide the direction of the franchise is reception to everything 15 is doing. The we dont like 15 crowd complaints have fallen deaf ears.

AKA your losing.



Xxain said:

FF Type O has nothing but praise.

Let's not get crazy here. Type-0 is horrible, but even if you don't agree, it's not really "nothing but praise". The game was criticised for how incredibly obtuse it is.



Wright said:
Xxain said:

FF Type O has nothing but praise.

Let's not get crazy here. Type-0 is horrible, but even if you don't agree, it's not really "nothing but praise". The game was criticised for how incredibly obtuse it is.

I meant Dissidia. Dont know why I always want to call it Type 0. I completely forget about actual Type 0. 



Xxain said:
Wright said:

Let's not get crazy here. Type-0 is horrible, but even if you don't agree, it's not really "nothing but praise". The game was criticised for how incredibly obtuse it is.

I meant Dissidia. Dont know why I always want to call it Type 0. I completely forget about actual Type 0. 

Oh, well, I can't personally speak for Dissidia as I haven't played it. It's just that I get horrible flashbacks whenever someone says Type-0, and hearing that it was "praised" triggers my whole body.



silly and pointless. Won't bother playing.



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