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curl-6 said:
mZuzek said:

"Splatoon won't sell 250k!"

Splatoon will sell on par with the Wonderful 101.

Green098 said:

I mean I can't see them taking another year gap so soon, they aren't saying it won't come out next year anyways.

It's their first HD game, those are often an arduous process.

killeryoshis said:
Everyone by now knows it won't bomb now. People will now say that it will fail i.e not meet its goals. So now people will say it will not pass 3DS + Wii U sales. Later on I expect people to say it will not pass 100 million. The more time passes the higher the floor people can reasonably predict. These people will always predict the most pessimistic predictions.

And if it does pass 100 million, then it's still not that impressive because it didn't sell as much as the DS or PS2, etc.

Jpcc86 said:
Well, depends on what you consider failure. Personally I dont think its gonna reach 40m units sold lifetime. Some people in this forum would consider that a failure. Not me tho.

Why do you think it will fall short of 40 million when it's trajectory is well above that?

And even if it sells better than those and become the best selling console ever it will still be "just a fad" for some.



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mZuzek said:
Rain2 said:
Why are people saying Switch needs to outsell 3DS + Wii U? It's an individual product that has nothing to do with either of them other than being released by Nintendo. I get putting things into perspective but regardless of that, it makes little sense to me.

If that's the case, Playstation has been quite the dud this gen. It also suggests that the PS3 era was the most successful Playstation has ever been. I don't say this to rip on the PS4 as we all know it has been a massive success whilst the PS3 bled money. I'm merely pointing out how comparisons don't always work.

I guess the comparison doesn't apply to PS4 because it has a handheld counterpart (had?), unlike the Switch. Either way, yeah it's a silly comparison.

By that logic though, PlayStation is a massive failure this gen because Ps4 plus Vita is not getting anywhere near the sales of ps3 plus PSP. 



One word. Pokemon. That alone can solidify a console's success. Not to mention that Switch is already doing remarkably.



" Note I mean fail as in sell utter trash, not fail as in not sell Wii numbers. "

Why do you get to frame peoples answers? Not selling Wii numbers would be a failure. World history has been about progress and growth, failing to even sell Wii numbers would be a failure.



contestgamer said:
" Note I mean fail as in sell utter trash, not fail as in not sell Wii numbers. "

Why do you get to frame peoples answers? Not selling Wii numbers would be a failure. World history has been about progress and growth, failing to even sell Wii numbers would be a failure.

Do you consider PS3 a failure?



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It's going to be very hard for the Switch to be unsuccessful commercially. It is low performance hardware at a high retail price with most of the software sold Nintendo's own software and its based on an off the shelf Tegra chipset without customisation. Even if it only sold 10 million Nintendo would probably be profitable.

As a consumer I'm a bit disappointed with it I have to say and will likely buy when more software is available and the prices are lower but I just have too much gaming hardware anyway. Same situation for me with the wii which I didn't get until much later so perhaps another sign of a very successful console. I tend to focus more on the games than on what is trendy to buy. I bought a super nintendo, N64 and Gamecube pretty quickly as they had lots of games I wanted to play.

Considering Nintendo has basically abandoned home consoles instead making a more powerful handheld that can also be used as home console I guess it is fair to say it does join together their past handheld and home console products into a single product and therefore is pretty much a downsizing operation if the revenue reduces compared to both those divisions.

As I've written many times I think the real success of the Switch may not be this current revision but a slightly smaller, more power efficient model that is a much better portable but still offers the same home console experience of the current model. I realise at the moment it looks like a big success and its hard to be critical of the current sku but I think longterm it's too expensive and bulky and a smaller revision will sort those issues out nicely. It's current 20nm fabrication process is too power hungry, heat generating and bulky. 14nm or better would help immensely with that, combined with a slightly smaller screen, 5hrs minimum playtime is possible, a more comfortable and usable figure for a portable.



Depends on the definition of failing. I predicted 60-80m units before. So that isn't usually a fail unless that console is called a PS3 which literally burnt money. But if winning this gen is the only way for Nintendo to succeed they have to hest the PS4 and I doubt that will happen. So if not besting the PS4 is counted as a failure it still has a shot too fail. I personally don't think that's a failure but perhaps some do.



Please excuse my (probally) poor grammar

God I hope not. I want a cheap used one in a year, the more it sells the cheaper I will likely pick one up for.



I'm still skeptical at least. I can see it sell 60-65 million max. Not a failure, but definitely a big retracement from previous gens for Nintendo.



fatslob-:O said:
Rain2 said:
Why are people saying Switch needs to outsell 3DS + Wii U? It's an individual product that has nothing to do with either of them other than being released by Nintendo. I get putting things into perspective but regardless of that, it makes little sense to me.

If that's the case, Playstation has been quite the dud this gen. It also suggests that the PS3 era was the most successful Playstation has ever been. I don't say this to rip on the PS4 as we all know it has been a massive success whilst the PS3 bled money. I'm merely pointing out how comparisons don't always work.

If it doesn't then it's pretty much signals a decline of Nintendo's customer base ... 

The Switch reaching near 3DS numbers (like say 85+%) would be a relatively good result in itself but that still translates to a negative outlook on Nintendo's future since their reaching within the limits of being a sustainable business ... 

Can Nintendo keep dealing with a declining customer base especially when in a time where AAA games are getting more and more expensive to make ?

I bought a WiiU and 2 3DS over the years. Has Nintendo's customer base declined if I don't buy 3 Switchs?