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I keep thinking it will sell between 45-55 millions. If that's considered fail, then yeah



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leyendax69 said:
I keep thinking it will sell between 45-55 millions. If that's considered fail, then yeah

So why will the Switch have considerably worse legs than the Xbox One?



KLAMarine said:

Perhaps not everyone considers third party games to be shitty.

Kamiko was AWESOME for example and Sonic Mania is great fun!

#NintendoFirst



StarDoor said:
leyendax69 said:
I keep thinking it will sell between 45-55 millions. If that's considered fail, then yeah

So why will the Switch have considerably worse legs than the Xbox One?

Most Nintendo consoles have high sales at the start and then fade out. Unless they start releasing revisions like there's no tomorrow and we have double and triple dippers (which they probably will considering what we saw with 3ds) I don't see SW going that high. I could be wrong though, but feel free to quote me in the next few years when I am.



Anti-Nintendo people claimed the Wii failed when sales declined to under 10 million annually during its 6th year on the market.

What will the Switch do? It really depends on Nintendo's business model going forward and how it's measured. The Switch architecture is built for scalability and different different form factors - you can have devices the size of a small phone. It would be kind of silly for Nintendo to ignore the potential here. So I would say more powerful "Switches" in different form factors before 2020. It's unlikely the base hybrid Switch doing under 40 million in the first 3 years given the typical cycle for Nintendo which has almost always seen a year 3 hardware sales peak with a year 4 sales sticking close to year 3; in other words 10 million year 1, 17 million year 2, and 21 million year 3. Now the question is, would an XL or Mini model with much more power be considered a new console? Hard to say. In the end, either way it's cut, Switch is already heading to be Nintendo's 4th best selling home console at the minimum, and if other models are considered, it could get to DS range. Imagine a dockable handheld Switch with streetpass and other handheld/mobile centric features. Nintendo needs to keep their minds on how they can make something uniquely Nintendo that people are going to see as attractive and intriguing to play - like the Wii, DS, Gameboy, and NES before, the Switch is the latest in that tradition.

What Nintendo shouldn't do is try to be another PlayStation for kids, like they did with the cube. Nintendo needs to stay sexy like they've been with the Wii, DS Lite, and Switch. Switch Lite, that might be interesting - where Lite is only its cosmetic approach, but with enhanced features and performance under the hood.



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mZuzek said:
p0isonparadise said:

*ugh*

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You know, posting gifs actually doesn't make your point any more reasonable (never mind a Trump one).

Are you bothered that I responded to your post from a few days ago with a gif? 



Jumpin said:

Anti-Nintendo people claimed the Wii failed when sales declined to under 10 million annually during its 6th year on the market.

It's hilarious how some people are still in denial of Wii's success and try to spin the third highest selling console of all time and the highest selling of its generation as a failure.



leyendax69 said:
StarDoor said:

So why will the Switch have considerably worse legs than the Xbox One?

Most Nintendo consoles have high sales at the start and then fade out. Unless they start releasing revisions like there's no tomorrow and we have double and triple dippers (which they probably will considering what we saw with 3ds) I don't see SW going that high. I could be wrong though, but feel free to quote me in the next few years when I am.

No, they really don't.

Out of ten systems, only three match your description: Nintendo 64, GameCube, and Wii U. These are the only consoles whose sales "faded out" quickly. (And in the case of GCN and Wii U, saying that they had "high sales at the start" is dubious.)

N64 and GCN peaked in their first full fiscal year. The one that faded the quickest, though, is the Wii U, since its peak fiscal year was the period from November 2012 to March 2013.

An actually accurate statement would be "Failed Nintendo consoles have high sales at the start and then fade out," because all other Nintendo conoles peaked in their second full fiscal year or later, and enjoyed consecutive years selling 10+ million.



StarDoor said:
leyendax69 said:

Most Nintendo consoles have high sales at the start and then fade out. Unless they start releasing revisions like there's no tomorrow and we have double and triple dippers (which they probably will considering what we saw with 3ds) I don't see SW going that high. I could be wrong though, but feel free to quote me in the next few years when I am.

No, they really don't.

Out of ten systems, only three match your description: Nintendo 64, GameCube, and Wii U. These are the only consoles whose sales "faded out" quickly. (And in the case of GCN and Wii U, saying that they had "high sales at the start" is dubious.)

N64 and GCN peaked in their first full fiscal year. The one that faded the quickest, though, is the Wii U, since its peak fiscal year was the period from November 2012 to March 2013.

An actually accurate statement would be "Failed Nintendo consoles have high sales at the start and then fade out," because all other Nintendo conoles peaked in their second full fiscal year or later, and enjoyed consecutive years selling 10+ million.

Cool, then again I'm still saying it will sell around 50M which is way higher than Wii u & Gamecube. I still think it won't have amazing legs to reach 60+ millions



leyendax69 said:
StarDoor said:

No, they really don't.

Out of ten systems, only three match your description: Nintendo 64, GameCube, and Wii U. These are the only consoles whose sales "faded out" quickly. (And in the case of GCN and Wii U, saying that they had "high sales at the start" is dubious.)

N64 and GCN peaked in their first full fiscal year. The one that faded the quickest, though, is the Wii U, since its peak fiscal year was the period from November 2012 to March 2013.

An actually accurate statement would be "Failed Nintendo consoles have high sales at the start and then fade out," because all other Nintendo conoles peaked in their second full fiscal year or later, and enjoyed consecutive years selling 10+ million.

Cool, then again I'm still saying it will sell around 50M which is way higher than Wii u & Gamecube. I still think it won't have amazing legs to reach 60+ millions

What makes you think that Nintendo will just suddenly stop supporting the Switch? Why would it have a shorter lifecylce than the 3DS?