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fatslob-:O said:
Rain2 said:

I mean, it depends on how you look at it I guess. As a few already pointed out, the same people had both a Wii U and 3DS. I know some people (including myself) who bought 2+ 3DS due to new models. We won't ever have official numbers but the Nintendo user base could only be 65 Million rather than 75 Million already. 

If it's about being sustainable, I think a user base of 30 Million would already be enough considering they make a ton of money on games. Their developed software sells so well, I don't think they have to reach a huge user base number to be profitable to the point of being worth it. 3DS & Wii U made little money (if any) on hardware at the beginning, Switch should already be making profit without considering software.

For the sake of argument though, I think anything under 50 Million will look bad on the surface. (if 3DS truly gets no successor) Looking bad and being an actual failure are different things however. 

And there were customers who had both the WII and DS which contributed greatly to Nintendo's revenue and profits but the Switch doesn't get that same benefit. Owning the same system multiple times also doesn't help sell their software either ... 

Having a user base of 30M would be a disaster for a big company such as Nintendo itself who has to make the vast majority of their own AAA games to move their hardware. That could be acceptable if only one platform what doing that but it's just bad performance if it's their only system ... (Plus there's nothing stopping that number from dropping even further either.)

It's just not healthy for Nintendo's business to keep declining like that ... 

I personally don't think 30 million will be the end result, but you'll never know. Nevertheless, Nintendo is more focused on profits and they've only gone in the red for about 3 years (basically this current gen) out of the 30+ years they've been in the video game business.

i think other factors include costs of game development and accessories. Nintendo appears to be doing well with accessories with the pro controller, cases, other colored joy cons, amiibo, extra docks, AC adapters, etc. As for game development, unless some of their games become complete flops, I don't think will be too much of an issue. Other than Game Freak (though you could argue that the Elephant game is their first HD project), pretty much all their main teams have had HD experience from the Wii U era. And to note, even though BoTW is probably their most expensive project to date, it probably doesn't compare to the budgets of a Destiny, GTA, Horizon, and other AAA projects. Nintendo is not known to spend that kind of money for a game (like ~$200-300 million, including marketing) even for their biggest franchises. And I don't think this will bother Nintendo too much. They usually publish and develop dozens of games a year. Plus you'll probably have a few more ports of Wii I U games, which isn't bad considering the previous console sold bad and more people getting a chance to play these games isn't a bad thing.

For now, though, Nintendo hasn't shown all their cards yet. Even with an announced core RPG Pokémon game and a Metroid Prime game in the works, I doubt they have shown all they want to show for next year or even the following year.



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meOwMiXmUnCHiEZz said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

Obvious troll is obvious. 

dont accuse me of trolling. im on thin ice and id like to stick around.

..Then don't troll?



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ArchangelMadzz said:
meOwMiXmUnCHiEZz said:

dont accuse me of trolling. im on thin ice and id like to stick around.

..Then don't troll?

i wasnt trolling. no matter what i do its going to make it look like im trolling though.



ArchangelMadzz said:
meOwMiXmUnCHiEZz said:
the switch is going to outsell the ps4, so unless the ps4 fails the switch definitely will not fail.

Obvious troll is obvious. 

How is that trolling? Lol



AngryLittleAlchemist said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

Obvious troll is obvious. 

How is that trolling? Lol

??

People seriously believe the Switch will outsell PS4? 



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I would HARDLY call it a failure, but sales have definitely dwindled a bit. I mean, it's barely selling more than the PS4, which is almost 4 years old now.

On the other hand, we still have some HUGE games coming out for the Switch soon. Mario Odyssey will boost sales through the roof this holiday season, I'm sure. Plus it looks like the 2018 lineup is where things are REALLY going to pick up.



ArchangelMadzz said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

How is that trolling? Lol

??

People seriously believe the Switch will outsell PS4? 

Well when I originally read his comment I thought it was referring to the Japanese market. But if he means worldwide... I agree that is kind of a stretch. Still, not malicious and I don't think he is trolling. 



Dyllyo said:
I would HARDLY call it a failure, but sales have definitely dwindled a bit. I mean, it's barely selling more than the PS4, which is almost 4 years old now.

Most consoles have their best year on their third or fourth year....and considering supply constraits it is not surprising it is "barely selling more" than PS4. 



ArchangelMadzz said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

How is that trolling? Lol

??

People seriously believe the Switch will outsell PS4? 

Saying that the Switch will 100% outsell the PS4 with no proof or agruement to back it up is a pretty laughable claim, but so is the other way around. 

I mean it can, but it's a matter of will it not can it, which is why it's wrong to say either it will or won't when it hasn't even been on the market for one year.

I do agree with you though, to just say a statement like that without anything to back it up or agrue for it is kinda trolling. I don't think it will but that still doesn't it won't. All I know it's got a better shot than the Xbox One did, which is also thanks to a strong Japanese market. But saying the Switch will just outright outsell the PS4 like that is a poorly made statement, one that the facts at the minute have PS4 in the favouring side.



ArchangelMadzz said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

How is that trolling? Lol

??

People seriously believe the Switch will outsell PS4? 

how is that so unbelievable? it hasnt even been out a year and the supply has been constrained for most of its life, so it is hard to gauge what sales look like for the system.