Machiavellian said:
I said MS is doing the same message for the X1X. Its a mid gen console, it has no exclusive games, it plays exactly same games as the X1, its made for people with 4K displays. Are those not the same message both Sony and MS has stated for Mid gen consoles. Now if you are talking about the future of the eco system then Yes, MS created the X1X forward and backward compatible. Their next console based on what MS has stated should also be forward and Backward compatible but then again they have made no announcement on that yet so we can Only Assume. At bolded. I have no clue what you are talking about. Who knows where the X1X will be by the time the next system drops for MS. Also why are you assuming MS would look at their eco system the way you are looking at it. If anything they will look at install bases including all systems. From Xs, X1X and whatever new system comes out. Why would MS not think that in 3 years, the X1X is not selling better when it's price drops and it continue to be the dominate console when it comes to performance etc. By your second point then the PS2 must have been killing Sony in price and parts because its part were not main stream when the PS3 came along. Is that the same case between Nvidia and AMD when they bring out a new card, the older cards must be costing them more money to sell at a reduced price. Now if something does not make sense, that part does not. Its not like this is something new in the industry, its only new for consoles. As to who will spend money on the inferior 3 year old system when the next iteration comes out, probably the same people who are purchasing a PS4 instead of the Pro or an X1 instead of the X1X. It really will depend on the separation the next iteation has over the mid gen. As I stated, if they all still play the same games then price becomes a big incentive. |
You can't say it's the same message that is the point. If PS4Pro is a console to play better version of PS4 and just it, but X1X is a console to play better versions of Xog, X360, X1 and also future inferior versions of X1XX them the message is still different. Also X1X will have VR as exclusive point, and MS have tipped in and out of allowing games to play only on X1X without X1 support.
So PS4Pro being a midgen refresh is different than X1X being a generationless system. And the main reason why X1X can't even talk about exclusives against X1 is that MS isn't even making exclusives themselves at all (besides its quasi-yearly franchises) and also put their games on PC.
Yes you have a clue. All systems have a sales curve, and there have been no case of very very slow start becoming the main leader of any gen.
PS2 was selling buckloads all the way to the end of its life so it's quite different than X1X that will probably not sell at any point what PS2 was selling in its end of life, so when the technology is changed it will be even harder for X1X to keep the prices down. So I wouldn't put much hope in having a 200 USD X1X.
The difference between PS4Pro and PS4 is quite small, as will be X1X to X1. But when PS5 comes by there is no reason to believe X1X will be very close to it, or that it will be close to X1XX. Come again on how much is X360 selling??
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