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Kerotan on 16 August 2017
Alkibiádēs said:
Kerotan said:
It's insane that without the Asian and WW release DQ11 is doing anything close to the 3DS version. Safe to say none of you expected that. And SE didn't either because they thought the 3DS version would do better then it's done.

Just not aswell that ps4 digital will be a lot higher then 3DS. The ps4 version costs more and a digital copy is far more profitable to them then a retail copy. SE will be very happy with the extra margins generated from these sales that they couldn't make in the past.

It's really not that surprising:

- 3DS is currently in its seventh year already. It's a dying system and its replacement is already on the market.

- The Switch caught Japan by storm, as well as the rest of the world. Many publishers completely underestimated how succesful a Nintendo console would be (again) and now they're caught with their pants off and they're quickly trying to rush games to the system. Should have started sooner. 

- Among the Nintendo fanbase DQ XI is competing with the new hype that is Splatoon 2. 

- Japanese gamers who own both a PS4 and 3DS will have likely opted for the superior version. Square expected them to buy both versions (just take a look at their commercials), but that obviously did not happen (at least not to the extent they were hoping). 

- PS4 version might generate more revenue, but it also had significantly higher development costs, so the extra revenue doesn't mean a lot. 

- DQ XI is still underperforming compared to previous installments, hence why the sales are only meeting their lower end target. 

I stopped reading when you called 3DS a dying system.  It's up a lot in terms of yoy hardware sales.  Nowhere near dying. This myth needs to die and stopped being used as a scapegoat for when a 3DS title under performs. 



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Alkibiádēs on 16 August 2017
Kerotan said:
Alkibiádēs said:

It's really not that surprising:

- 3DS is currently in its seventh year already. It's a dying system and its replacement is already on the market.

- The Switch caught Japan by storm, as well as the rest of the world. Many publishers completely underestimated how succesful a Nintendo console would be (again) and now they're caught with their pants off and they're quickly trying to rush games to the system. Should have started sooner. 

- Among the Nintendo fanbase DQ XI is competing with the new hype that is Splatoon 2. 

- Japanese gamers who own both a PS4 and 3DS will have likely opted for the superior version. Square expected them to buy both versions (just take a look at their commercials), but that obviously did not happen (at least not to the extent they were hoping). 

- PS4 version might generate more revenue, but it also had significantly higher development costs, so the extra revenue doesn't mean a lot. 

- DQ XI is still underperforming compared to previous installments, hence why the sales are only meeting their lower end target. 

I stopped reading when you called 3DS a dying system.  It's up a lot in terms of yoy hardware sales.  Nowhere near dying. This myth needs to die and stopped being used as a scapegoat for when a 3DS title under performs. 

It's down yoy WW. 

It's only up in Japan because of DQ XI. 



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vivster on 16 August 2017

Told you so. It's a console game after all.



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Kerotan on 16 August 2017
Alkibiádēs said:
Kerotan said:

I stopped reading when you called 3DS a dying system.  It's up a lot in terms of yoy hardware sales.  Nowhere near dying. This myth needs to die and stopped being used as a scapegoat for when a 3DS title under performs. 

It's down yoy WW. 

It's only up in Japan because of DQ XI. 

I'm not going to lie,  I burst out laughing because we're discussing DQ11 sales from Japan.  Western sales are irrelevant.  



Alkibiádēs on 16 August 2017
Kerotan said:
Alkibiádēs said:

It's down yoy WW. 

It's only up in Japan because of DQ XI. 

I'm not going to lie,  I burst out laughing because we're discussing DQ11 sales from Japan.  Western sales are irrelevant.  

3DS was already dying last year, still is now. The numbers aren't good. That's why Nintendo replaced it with a new console. 



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Turkish on 16 August 2017

A few years ago people in the Gaf MC thread used to say how the 3DS would crush the PS4 version becuz it's yuuuge install base would still be as active as it was back then. "bbbuu bbuuut, people dont throw away their old handhelds!"

spemanig said:
How can sales be higher on 3DS but stronger on PS4? Genuine question.

Means SE expected more of the 3DS version, despite it (maybe?) selling more than PS4. The PS4 version sold more than they expected.

Not hard really.

Valdath said:
How do we know if this is value or retail + digital?

Those are tied together. PS4 version is ahead in terms of revenue because it is priced 3,000 yen higher + the fact that digital is much stronger on PS4. Even if the PS4 didn't up outselling the 3DS version in unit sales, it brought in more money.



Kerotan on 16 August 2017
Alkibiádēs said:
Kerotan said:

I'm not going to lie,  I burst out laughing because we're discussing DQ11 sales from Japan.  Western sales are irrelevant.  

3DS was already dying last year, still is now. The numbers aren't good. That's why Nintendo replaced it with a new console. 

Sales pretty similar to 2015 too.  Fact is it's not dying and actually getting stronger now.  Your point is invalid.  Ps3 launching didn't prevent ps2 from selling strongly or software titles selling well. 



xl-klaudkil on 16 August 2017

Logical, ps4 version is by far the better choice.. A real big budget traditional jrpg.

Overall great sales



 

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Alkibiádēs on 16 August 2017
Kerotan said:
Alkibiádēs said:

3DS was already dying last year, still is now. The numbers aren't good. That's why Nintendo replaced it with a new console. 

Sales pretty similar to 2015 too.  Fact is it's not dying and actually getting stronger now.  Your point is invalid.  Ps3 launching didn't prevent ps2 from selling strongly or software titles selling well. 

PS3 was never succesful in Japan. 



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Ljink96 on 16 August 2017

That's kind of murky...he didn't say in sales figures. Probably in overall profit but I don't think it'll be in copies sold. In the long run, the 3DS version will have longer legs if we're talking copies sold. Profit will naturally be higher with PS4.