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Another solution might be to divide the Hot Topic column into 4 segments (Gaming, Sales, Website, Off-topic). That way all discussion types would be more evenly represented and it would prevent the entire hot topics column from being swamped with threads on one subject (remember NX speculation threads).

Dividing the hot topics column could allow you to go one further and control the weighting of the hot topic types. For example, of the 16 currently displayed, 12 could be dedicated to Gaming and Sales sections, with 4 dedicated to Website and Off-topic. Doing this would reduce the number of political threads that appear in Hot Topics, control where they appear on the front page, while still making them prominent enough to entice those who are interested.

One advantage of having the four forum sections showing as sub headings in the hot topic column, is that they provide immediate visible links to the forum sections users might be most interested in browsing - something that is only possible via a drop-down to the forum index, currently.

Here's one example of the many ways in which the Hot Topics column could be divided and weighted.

FORUM HOT TOPICS
Gaming Forum
Topic title 1 in Nintendo Discussion
Topic title 2 in Gaming Discussion
Topic title 3 in Gaming Discussion
Topic title 4 in Sony Discussion
Topic title 5 in Sony Discussion
Topic title 6 in Microsoft Discussion
Sales Forum
Topic title 1 in Sales Discussion
Topic title 2 in Sales Discussion
Topic title 3 in Latest Charts
Topic title 4 in Latest Charts
Topic title 5 in Latest Charts
Topic title 6 in Sales Discussion
Website Forum
Topic title 1 in Introduce Yourself
Topic title 2 in Website Feedback
Off-Topic Forum
Topic title 1 in Politics Discussion
Topic title 2 in Movies Discussion


Edit: A second, simpler alternative would be to divide the column into just two areas, "Hot Topic" and "Hot Off-Topic" - one including the Gaming, Sales and Website sections and a second (smaller) column containing the Off Topic section.

Hot Topics advertises what's going on in the community and I think that removing politics discussion or any other subforum from Hot Topics could risk misrepresenting what the community as a whole is currently talking about. Also taking the entire Hot Topics column out completely would reduce the visibility of the community to first time visitors and lurkers. It's too good a feature to lose, I think.

These solutions - if they're possible to do - make a compromise and are flexible - they allow users and visitors to see what's being discussed in Hot Topics without one section overpowering any of the others.

I agree with the OP the simplest solution is for those who don't like seeing politics threads to ignore what they don't want to read, but on the occasions when politics threads are choking the Hot Topics, I can see why they might prefer to just leave the site.



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Well you have the filter option, When you join the site you should be wise enough to use that option.

Secondly I have posted this a lot:

Give mods the option to be more strict and ban users from some certain groups of threads. For example someone who would post hate in the Sony/MS/Nintendo sub forum instead of banning him for a few days from the forums just ban him for a month for the sub forum.  In my previous experience on a other forum it is way more effective, less alt accounts and less drama;






VGPolyglot said:

Now, political threads have become a very hot topic here. There are many different views as to how they should be handled. Some want it to stay as it. Others want some sort of modification. Still yet, some want the threads to be banned entirely. In any case, it seems to have really divided the community, turning some people off, and probably causing others to quit the site entirely.

Now, I personally don't want the threads to be gone. I do like seeing people's perspectives, and I like posting in them myself. Hell, even my sig itself contains political overtones. However, I can see that many people don't like it, and with that I'm proposing a compromize. Yes, it's a compromise that has already been brought up before, probably also in the form of a thread, but I'll re-introduce the idea. I don't have any official capacity here, I am merely a regular user. However, I am involved in the community enough to know that many do not like the political threads, and I'd say that this is the best solution. Those that want to participate can continue to do so, and those that don't like them can act as if they don't exist.

Now, whether or not this will be able to be implelemented, I cannot say. As you guys know, the admins have had trouble dealing with the load that they have, so this may never become a reality. However, I'd say that even if it doesn't deal with the root issues this site has, it at least cuts off one of the branches that is creeping over the house.

I agree. Get all political/non-gaming threads off the front page. This is a website about gaming and that's why I come here. I don't come here to hear about some kid who got run over by a bus. It's ridiculous imo.



Hedra42 said:

Edit: A second, simpler alternative would be to divide the column into just two areas, "Hot Topic" and "Hot Off-Topic" - one including the Gaming, Sales and Website sections and a second (smaller) column containing the Off Topic section.

I think this is the best solution. People who want to talk about off-topic stuff will still have easy access to it, and people who only want to participate in gaming threads won't be bothered by off-topic threads anymore.



spemanig said:
They definitely shouldn't be on the front page of a gaming forum.

A gaming community like IGN no,  but one that needs money..... Yes. 


This, along with other threads consistently come up on this topic.  No one is staying on this site to see what a dozen users who cry about the same thing monthly,  call their top ten games of all time thread,  or 50 other threads we see monthly. But when they see a new and exciting topic like,  "White supremacist runs into people", they click and go deeper. 

Does no one else notice these threads are popular? Hopefully this is are last thread on this matter for at least a year. Stop trying to cause trouble people,  just take off politics and do us all a favor. 



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Hedra42 said:

Another solution might be to divide the Hot Topic column into 4 segments (Gaming, Sales, Website, Off-topic). That way all discussion types would be more evenly represented and it would prevent the entire hot topics column from being swamped with threads on one subject (remember NX speculation threads).

Dividing the hot topics column could allow you to go one further and control the weighting of the hot topic types. For example, of the 16 currently displayed, 12 could be dedicated to Gaming and Sales sections, with 4 dedicated to Website and Off-topic. Doing this would reduce the number of political threads, control where they appear on the front page, while still making them prominent enough to entice those who are interested.

One advantage of having the four forum sections showing as sub headings in the hot topic column, is that they provide immediate visible links to the forum sections users might be most interested in browsing - something that is only possible via a drop-down to the forum index, currently.

Here's one example of the many ways in which the Hot Topics column could be divided and weighted.

FORUM HOT TOPICS
Gaming Forum
Topic title 1 in Nintendo Discussion
Topic title 2 in Gaming Discussion
Topic title 3 in Gaming Discussion
Topic title 4 in Sony Discussion
Topic title 5 in Sony Discussion
Topic title 6 in Microsoft Discussion
Sales Forum
Topic title 1 in Sales Discussion
Topic title 2 in Sales Discussion
Topic title 3 in Latest Charts
Topic title 4 in Latest Charts
Topic title 5 in Latest Charts
Topic title 6 in Sales Discussion
Website Forum
Topic title 1 in Introduce Yourself
Topic title 2 in Website Feedback
Off-Topic Forum
Topic title 1 in Politics Discussion
Topic title 2 in Movies Discussion


Edit: A second, simpler alternative would be to divide the column into just two areas, "Hot Topic" and "Hot Off-Topic" - one including the Gaming, Sales and Website sections and a second (smaller) column containing the Off Topic section.

Hot Topics advertises what's going on in the community and I think that removing politics discussion or any other subforum from Hot Topics could risk misrepresenting what the community as a whole is currently talking about. Also taking the entire Hot Topics column out completely would reduce the visibility of the community to first time visitors and lurkers. It's too good a feature to lose, I think.

These solutions - if they're possible to do - make a compromise and are flexible - they allow users and visitors to see what's being discussed in Hot Topics without one section overpowering any of the others.

There are many solutions to those who don't wish to see politics threads on the front page. The ones you mentioned are good, the ones already implemented are also good.

I don't understand why many of you want to solve this issue in radical way that would displease others instead of taking a more reasonable approach like the one Hedra42 is taking here. 

Whatever change you want to see, it will only happen when higher powers interfere (ioi or Trucks), and this happens once in a blue moon. So mods might as well take their time to find the right solution that would please everyone.

A simple filter for the front page would work best. Dividing the hot topics into sections like it used to be during vgc 2 days is also a good idea. Radically removing the sections you don't like from the front page is the laziest of the 3. 



vivster said:
How about fucking removing hot topics already? Every issue with the threads on the front page comes down to this exact issue every single fucking time.

Removing the Hot Topics would be my ideal, one I've brought up in the past, but the thought is that forum visability is what keeps the site afloat, unfotunately.

So the next best thing is removing non-gaming topics from the front page, especially politics.



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AlfredoTurkey said:
VGPolyglot said:

Now, political threads have become a very hot topic here. There are many different views as to how they should be handled. Some want it to stay as it. Others want some sort of modification. Still yet, some want the threads to be banned entirely. In any case, it seems to have really divided the community, turning some people off, and probably causing others to quit the site entirely.

Now, I personally don't want the threads to be gone. I do like seeing people's perspectives, and I like posting in them myself. Hell, even my sig itself contains political overtones. However, I can see that many people don't like it, and with that I'm proposing a compromize. Yes, it's a compromise that has already been brought up before, probably also in the form of a thread, but I'll re-introduce the idea. I don't have any official capacity here, I am merely a regular user. However, I am involved in the community enough to know that many do not like the political threads, and I'd say that this is the best solution. Those that want to participate can continue to do so, and those that don't like them can act as if they don't exist.

Now, whether or not this will be able to be implelemented, I cannot say. As you guys know, the admins have had trouble dealing with the load that they have, so this may never become a reality. However, I'd say that even if it doesn't deal with the root issues this site has, it at least cuts off one of the branches that is creeping over the house.

I agree. Get all political/non-gaming threads off the front page. 

Are you living in Turkey?! Just asking cause that's exactly how things are handled there.



An so should we also remove other non-gaming centric topics from the hot section? Non-sense.

If someone is such a snowflake that the front page having some political thread is such a problem the person have more things to worry.



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LurkerJ said:

A simple filter for the front page would work best. Dividing the hot topics into sections like it used to be during vgc 2 days is also a good idea. Radically removing the sections you don't like from the front page is the laziest of the 3. 

I didn't realise hot topics had been divided before. When was that?