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outlawauron on 17 August 2017
Chris Hu said:
ratuscafoarterea said:

From the top of my head, I remember last year there was an incident where a BLM supporter killed five cops in Dallas, and then another BLM supporter killed three cops at Baton Rouge.  And before you’re going to say that Antifa and BLM are different, that’s not the case, Antifa was created to support BLM.

BLM supporter doen't equate to BLM member the guy that killed the five cops wasn't a actual member of BLM.  The guy that killed the woman and injured 20 on the other hand was a actual member of a hate group and big time Hitler fan.

That's the thing though. None of these groups have actual memberships. You don't "join" anything. It's gathering of people online who share the same beliefs (unless you consider joining a facebook group or forum as official membership). You say you're apart of the movement.

Both people who killed police officers in Dallas and Baton Rouge were both part of BLM. I don't think they represent everyone who wants equality and better treatment of minorities by police, but with such open groupings/identities, you can't really unclaim those people.



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ratuscafoarterea on 17 August 2017
Chris Hu said:
o_O.Q said:

lol so you like all the other guys in here who talk about "real" communism(i've counted at least 3 of you) can't actually explain what it is? even though you seem fairly certain that its a thing?

 

doesn't the fact that you can't explain it or discuss it in any rational way kind of make it apparent to you that you just don't know what you are talking about? and perhaps you should take some time to analyse what these terms are actually referring to?

 

i'm not asking you to elaborate because i don't understand, i'm doing it because i know you can't elaborate and i'm waiting to see if you are going to be honest about that

For one none of the countries that where and are labeled as Communist ever achieved a classless society.  Even Lenin himself said that the Soviet Union never achieved true communism but only managed to achieve State Capitalism. 

I’m a Romanian, I have experienced communism until I was 15, we were always being told that there is no social class, that everyone is the same, at the same social level. In fact under PCR (Romanian Communist Party) everyone had the same wages, even a medic had the same wage as a factory worker. Even communist party members were being told that they are at the same social level as non-members. Everyone had access to only the same type of a car, radio, tv, same rationalized food. So, you’re wrong, true communism as you’re trying to explain, did existed, and communists have tried to implement. Fact is that communism doesn’t work with humans; a medic doesn’t put all that effort in to his education, just to make the same wage as a factory worker. Even tho we were educated to believe that everyone is at the same social level, at the street talk level, everyone knew it’s not true, and in many ways not fair. You’ve just proved you have no idea what you’re talking about. If you want to live under communism, go and transform yourself into a machine, because communism doesn’t work on humans.



Dark_Lord_2008 on 17 August 2017

There is good Communism and there is bad Communism. What people experienced under Soviet Union and Eastern European nations is bad militant State based Communism. People experienced good Communism in Cuba. R.I.P. Fidel Castro!



iron_megalith on 17 August 2017

Just gonna drop this here.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/08/16/protesters-atlanta-tear-peace-monument-mistaking-confederate-symbol/

I absolutely pity those who go into such protests but are mislead. It's as sad as watching rats follow Pied Piper to their demise.



Aeolus451 on 17 August 2017
iron_megalith said:
Just gonna drop this here.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/08/16/protesters-atlanta-tear-peace-monument-mistaking-confederate-symbol/

I absolutely pity those who go into such protests but are mislead. It's as sad as watching rats follow Pied Piper to their demise.

They have no business in pulling down any statue if they can't distinguish between them and ignorant of the history attached to them. They should just arrest them for damaging government property.



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Superman4 on 17 August 2017
RJ_Sizzle said:
Slimebeast said:

I don't accuse immigrants of wanting to eradicate or stop white culture, although I accuse many Western socialists of it because they're often outspoken enemies of nation states and seek a globalized world. But still, due to demographic reasons and mathematical facts, these people who you describe "are going to want opportunities available to them in the West" will completely change the nature of the West into something I'm deeply opposed to, for a huge variety of reasons (cultural, economic, crime, development level, ethical and so on).

You're talking about a 50-50 split, but that's only the next step. What comes after that? 60-40, 70-30, 80-20... and eventually total annihilation. Because there's almost no end to people from the third world who wants to live here.

Already today the society I live in is negatively affected by this mass movement of people, and like I've said many times, young ethnic Swedes are only a few years away from becoming a minority. In their own freaking country! How can that be right? Fast forward only a couple decades and we're a clear minority. Look even further in the future and we'll be a tiny minority. Dominated by foreigners and foreign culture, completely subjugated to their will.

I am already living in a society with many alien cultural expressions I simply do not like, with lots of people who don't feel any loyalty or solidarity to the nation and other citizens except for their own tribes, with a strained economy that means I have to work much harder to be able to help and support my loved ones, with increased crime and chaos, with corrupted institutions, with perverted morals and societal rules. And it just keeps going in the wrong direction by each day.

I absolutely totally reject that, and there's no natural law or something unavoidable that says such a development cannot be avoided. And there's nothing that says that this development must progress at the absolutely insane speed it's doing today, where the streets and neighborhoods are changing in front of your eyes almost from day to day. Where all of a sudden you feel like a stranger walking in your own country.

I agree that America in its nature is a lot more naturally multicultural in many ways, than European nations are. It's largely a melting pot and I don't have a problem with some nations being multicultural, like settler nations like the USA. Therefore I'm not nearly as passionate in opposing migration in the case of the US as I am when it comes to European nations. And yet, I recognize the US as a predominantly white nation and I prefer that setting quite strongly.

It's very similar to how I don't want any other nation in the world to become dominated by foreigners, be it Japan, Greece, Nigeria, Poland, Chile, Germany, Korea, Russia, United Kingdom or Italy etc etc.

It sounds like you just have a general phobia of other races. Sounds almost crippling to the point of anxiety. Many other cultures and races don't experience terror at being a minority unless the majority panics and turns on them. White people aren't going anywhere. Even in a scenario where whites became the minority, it wouldn't be for generations. Why even be concerned about it now?

I don’t think it’s about being afraid of minorities or being afraid of becoming one, I think it’s about the cultural change that is being attempted at the expense of our laws. What I mean by that is we are seeing laws passed that prop up every other race besides white. Financial assistance, educational assistance, hiring practices etc. are all being geared toward what is now an unfair advantage against white people. Any and all laws should never put any race ahead of another and should never allow a benefit for one race over the other. I have said this a number of times in this thread however I don’t think people truly understand it. Laws that allow for one race over another to advance more easily, gain financial freedom more easily etc. will snowball over time and essentially just create the exact same situation it intended to stop but in the opposite direction. What needs to happen is all laws related to a particular race and all programs designed to help only certain races or cultures need to be abolished. Anti-discrimination laws are fine because they cover everyone and nobody should be able to discriminate based on race, religion, sexual orientation etc. The Confederate monuments need to stay because they are a part of our history, they are not a symbol of racism or segregation, they are at the moment something the alt left is using to piss off the alt right.  Our Constitution is based largely on the Confederate constitution and we owe a lot of what we are today to the people in the confederate army.  

 

On a side note, CNN needs to start reporting news and stop analyzing and twisting everything. All news shows need to simply report the news, if you are injecting your opinion or analyzing the information then you are no longer a news show or news organization, you are an entertainment company or show. A news network or show simply reports what is said or done and leaves it at that, CNN has become an alt left war monger of a network that I can no longer even stand to watch. 

 

As for some context on who I am, I was a registered Democrat for over 20 years. That changed in this election because I voted for Trump and can no longer be a part of a party that supports things like illegal immigration, stealing tax payer money to pay for things we didn’t vote on then turning around and passing more tax hikes to pay for what we voted on in the first place, twists everything that someone says and tries to portray anyone who opposes them as a racist bigot or homophobe. I am for gay rights, for a women’s right to choose, do not support religion and am pro-immigration. I do however support ICE and what they are doing currently and agree that as a nation we need to stop giving so much money to everyone but our own citizens. Paying for refugees to come here is not acceptable, giving billions to other countries to build their economy is not acceptable as long as we have poverty in our own country. If we want to ship all of our jobs overseas and dump billions into other economies than every citizen in the US should not have to worry about shelter, food or medical care.



ratuscafoarterea on 17 August 2017
SpokenTruth said:
Slimebeast said:

Good question, but it's a big topic and I don't think it suits this thread that well.

To just say "white culture" I agree sounds very general and unspecific, because it suggests that it includes all the different cultural expressions in the nations you listed. But obviously one could talk about the common denominators, or talk about specific expressions country by country, or study this topic from some other angle. The point is that it's still something real and important despite our increasingly global and multicultural world.

So, you are more about Swedish culture rather than a generic white culture?

ratuscafoarterea said:

 

I just love how you try to speak/look down on him, right after he made it clear with pics and videos that Antifa is just as bad as the Far Right. Use your brain a little, doesn’t that shows you that he condemns hate coming from both sides? But, yeah, you’re the Brit that doesn’t know the meaning of the “riot” word.

I thought I already told you I'm not from the UK.  All profiles default to the UK.  I have since changed it to make you happy.

So you’re form the US. My point still stands, you know, English is first language in both UK and USA ….. use some logic …



konnichiwa on 17 August 2017
Slimebeast said:
Soundwave said:

 

I don't accuse immigrants of wanting to eradicate or stop white culture, although I accuse many Western socialists of it because they're often outspoken enemies of nation states and seek a globalized world. But still, due to demographic reasons and mathematical facts, these people who you describe "are going to want opportunities available to them in the West" will completely change the nature of the West into something I'm deeply opposed to, for a huge variety of reasons (cultural, economic, crime, development level, ethical and so on).

You're talking about a 50-50 split, but that's only the next step. What comes after that? 60-40, 70-30, 80-20... and eventually total annihilation. Because there's almost no end to people from the third world who wants to live here.

Already today the society I live in is negatively affected by this mass movement of people, and like I've said many times, young ethnic Swedes are only a few years away from becoming a minority. In their own freaking country! How can that be right? Fast forward only a couple decades and we're a clear minority. Look even further in the future and we'll be a tiny minority. Dominated by foreigners and foreign culture, completely subjugated to their will.

I am already living in a society with many alien cultural expressions I simply do not like, with lots of people who don't feel any loyalty or solidarity to the nation and other citizens except for their own tribes, with a strained economy that means I have to work much harder to be able to help and support my loved ones, with increased crime and chaos, with corrupted institutions, with perverted morals and societal rules. And it just keeps going in the wrong direction by each day.

I absolutely totally reject that, and there's no natural law or something unavoidable that says such a development cannot be avoided. And there's nothing that says that this development must progress at the absolutely insane speed it's doing today, where the streets and neighborhoods are changing in front of your eyes almost from day to day. Where all of a sudden you feel like a stranger walking in your own country.

I agree that America in its nature is a lot more naturally multicultural in many ways, than European nations are. It's largely a melting pot and I don't have a problem with some nations being multicultural, like settler nations like the USA. Therefore I'm not nearly as passionate in opposing migration in the case of the US as I am when it comes to European nations. And yet, I recognize the US as a predominantly white nation and I prefer that setting quite strongly.

It's very similar to how I don't want any other nation in the world to become dominated by foreigners, be it Japan, Greece, Nigeria, Poland, Chile, Germany, Korea, Russia, United Kingdom or Italy etc etc.

It is good that you came out and said the 'Want to live white country/city part' in a older post something you have should said before imo.

Anyway to talk about the white culture you mentioned before, I find it very hard to define it and I see politicians can't do it aswell. 

Let's say 'White Swedisch Culture' = Hard working/Taking Care of each other/Wear Traditional dresses on sundays/eat this dish/be christian..... if a Black person does the same or asian it does not count because they not are White I just find it racist and literally makes definining a white culture hard...

Because really this people in HOkkaido (Japan) are probably more 'typical' Swedish than Swedish citizens in Sweden.





And try to write more later (have to leave) will make a new post or edit it in here.







VGPolyglot on 17 August 2017
konnichiwa said:






OMG, is that Hokkaido? It looks beautiful!! Makes me want to go there even more!!



konnichiwa on 17 August 2017
VGPolyglot said:
konnichiwa said:






OMG, is that Hokkaido? It looks beautiful!! Makes me want to go there even more!!

Yes a little north of Sapporo (30Km-50km). Hokkaido is an excellent place if you are from Scandinavia and want to live in a similar climate and where you can find peace.


Reserve it for the winter already you can rent them for a week or a two :).