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VGPolyglot said:
ratuscafoarterea said:

You failed to explain your pov. That makes it very ambiguous, and not being able to explain yourself doesn't make you any favors.

OK, I'll explain my views. Socialism is great. Communism is great. Anarchism is great. Capitalism is bad. Fascism is bad. Nazism is bad. Racism is bad. There

Lol ..... you really don't know what you're talking about. First off, I have lived under comunism, I was 15 when Ceausescu died. So I think I know what I’m talking about. Second I have highlighted one thing wrong with your views. You say that you like communism but dislike fascism. That’s nonsense, considering the fact that both ideologies have a lot in common. Both dislike the idea of free speech, freedom of religion expression, both work on a centralized economical system, both work on the idea that the state should decide for the individual.  

 



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AngryLittleAlchemist said:
ratuscafoarterea said:

You sound just like Ceausescu.

Ok but seriously what your saying is intellectually dishonest. VGPolygoatee was not saying any white person could run over a white person and be labelled racist. Its about context. This was at a KKK rally, and it was against protesters. Its weird you bring up the point about the Cold War, while specificaly mentioning the conitation that made it different. It was communism vs capitalism. So why disregard the context in this case?

So, about context, if a black cop kills a black suspect, is racism ... right.

About context ….. DUDE, you realize that this guy/criminal … the driver, maybe he was at the rally on foot, maybe he got punched in the face by one of the counter protestors, maybe he got pissed off and decided to take revenge …..    

For the record, I think that what this guy did is criminal, and he is guilty. That doesn’t change the fact that you/us don’t know he’s real motifs.



ratuscafoarterea said:

So, about context, if a black cop kills a black suspect, is racism ... right.

About context ….. DUDE, you realize that this guy/criminal … the driver, maybe he was at the rally on foot, maybe he got punched in the face by one of the counter protestors, maybe he got pissed off and decided to take revenge …..    

 

For the record, I think that what this guy did is criminal, and he is guilty. That doesn’t change the fact that you/us don’t know he’s real motifs.

oh my god, NO ONE SAID THAT. 

 

Right, we dont know the motive, but you're going out of your way to such an extent just to say "but but guys, it might NOTTTT be a kkk member!" for no good reason. 



AngryLittleAlchemist said:
ratuscafoarterea said:

So, about context, if a black cop kills a black suspect, is racism ... right.

About context ….. DUDE, you realize that this guy/criminal … the driver, maybe he was at the rally on foot, maybe he got punched in the face by one of the counter protestors, maybe he got pissed off and decided to take revenge …..    

 

For the record, I think that what this guy did is criminal, and he is guilty. That doesn’t change the fact that you/us don’t know he’s real motifs.

oh my god, NO ONE SAID THAT. 

 

Right, we dont know the motive, but you're going out of your way to such an extent just to say "but but guys, it might NOTTTT be a kkk member!" for no good reason. 

Right, right, so you know I’m right , but you still resort to mock me.   

Actually, there is a good reason. Spreading false information is wrong.    



ratuscafoarterea said:
Lafiel said:

intellectual dishonesty to the max

You failed to explain your pov. That makes it very ambiguous, and not being able to explain yourself doesn't make you any favors.

racial supremacy groups don't just define themselves through their race, they define themselves through their want for racial supremacy and often their vision how to get there/ensure it/manage it

for racial supremacy groups the individual members of their race are not important (they can be made in martyrs though with the right circumstances), the cause and the result is what's important to them

it's a well known fact, that they have no qualms hurting and killing people of their own race if they either don't fit their vision of societal utopia (e.g. homosexuals, disabled in the 3rd Reich) or are in open (or even assumed) resistance to it (e.g. dissenters in the 3rd Reich)

 

your attempted rebuke in "that would mean people killing each other due to differences in ideology, religion or nationality = racism aswell" entirely drops/neglects/"forgets" the context of an outspoken racial supremacy group



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ratuscafoarterea said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

oh my god, NO ONE SAID THAT. 

 

Right, we dont know the motive, but you're going out of your way to such an extent just to say "but but guys, it might NOTTTT be a kkk member!" for no good reason. 

Right, right, so you know I’m right , but you still resort to mock me.   

Actually, there is a good reason. Spreading false information is wrong.    

 

You aren't though.

You know what.. I tried not to start a big argument on this thread, I just wanted to correct your error. Bit this is going nowhere and it's clear you won't change your mind, so bye. 



ratuscafoarterea said:
VGPolyglot said:

You're implying that because he was trying to run over whites, that he can't be a white supremacist, which is absurd. They don't just target people of other races, they also target people of their own race who oppose them, as they consider them to be a threat to their goals.

Using your logic, anyone that opposes someone of the same race, could be labeled racist, and that is wrong/false. OMFG, that Cold War, communism vs capitalism was all about RACISM! And all of that separatist war happening in Ukraine between Russian and Ukrainians, it’s all about RACISM! Nevermind the invasion of Poland … it was all about Racism.

Never mind the constant point fingering between Pakistan and India ….. it’s all about racism.

 

 

This is the worst strawman post I've ever read. It's pretty easy to figure out who the tiki torchers are in these threads.



ratuscafoarterea said:

So, about context, if a black cop kills a black suspect, is racism ... right.

About context ….. DUDE, you realize that this guy/criminal … the driver, maybe he was at the rally on foot, maybe he got punched in the face by one of the counter protestors, maybe he got pissed off and decided to take revenge …..    

 

For the record, I think that what this guy did is criminal, and he is guilty. That doesn’t change the fact that you/us don’t know he’s real motifs.

going with "we can never know his thoughts" for a guy killing counter-protesters at a white supremacy rally, huh?

like "a meteor might have hit him, rendering him uncontrollably accelrating into the people", this kind of scenario manufacturing is not worth anyones time

I'm just waiting for the inevitable "it was a false flag operation/rally funded by George Soros"



Lafiel said:
ratuscafoarterea said:

So, about context, if a black cop kills a black suspect, is racism ... right.

About context ….. DUDE, you realize that this guy/criminal … the driver, maybe he was at the rally on foot, maybe he got punched in the face by one of the counter protestors, maybe he got pissed off and decided to take revenge …..    

 

For the record, I think that what this guy did is criminal, and he is guilty. That doesn’t change the fact that you/us don’t know he’s real motifs.

going with "we can never know his thoughts" for a guy killing counter-protesters at a white supremacy rally, huh?

like "a meteor might have hit him, rendering him uncontrollably accelrating into the people", this kind of scenario manufacturing is not worth anyones time

I'm just waiting for the inevitable "it was a false flag operation/rally funded by George Soros"

That’s not what I have said …… straw-man …..    



Lafiel said:
ratuscafoarterea said:

So, about context, if a black cop kills a black suspect, is racism ... right.

About context ….. DUDE, you realize that this guy/criminal … the driver, maybe he was at the rally on foot, maybe he got punched in the face by one of the counter protestors, maybe he got pissed off and decided to take revenge …..    

 

For the record, I think that what this guy did is criminal, and he is guilty. That doesn’t change the fact that you/us don’t know he’s real motifs.

going with "we can never know his thoughts" for a guy killing counter-protesters at a white supremacy rally, huh?

like "a meteor might have hit him, rendering him uncontrollably accelrating into the people", this kind of scenario manufacturing is not worth anyones time

I'm just waiting for the inevitable "it was a false flag operation/rally funded by George Soros"

... I don't think I can possibly describe how well this post cheered me up with laughter. Thanks for this xD