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Soundwave on 12 August 2017
barneystinson69 said:
Soundwave said:

You might be conservative, but majority of young people are not, if the election was only 18-24 year olds we can see from the exit polling that Trump loses that election easily. 

I'm saying racists are a *part* of his voter bloc, if you want to deny that go ahead, but I think deep down you know that's lie yourself. He doesn't want to alienate that group. 

And for a Republican every voter bloc counts because in all honesty they are not very easily able to win popular votes anymore. They need to eek out wins on electoral map technicalities to be able to win anymore. 

Americans under the age of 5 are already a majority minority population. In a few years, by 2020 majority of children under 18 will be a minority majority. That's the future of the American demographics ... as I've said in the long term Trump style politics are really in their last dying gasp. America is going to have to accept that it is already a massively multi-ethnic society.

Trump tied 18-24 years olds in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. And a lot of those "minorities" are also white hispanics...

If the election was millenials (18-29 yos) only, Clinton has 473 electoral votes to Trump's 32. 

This is going to be in the long term a problem for the Republican Party, they are whether they like it or not going to have to become more inclusive in the decades to come. Their most reliable voter blocks are older white people, and older people tend to die more often every 4 years. 



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barneystinson69 on 12 August 2017
Soundwave said:
barneystinson69 said:

Trump tied 18-24 years olds in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. And a lot of those "minorities" are also white hispanics...

It election was millenials (18-29 yos) only, Clinton has 473 electoral votes to Trump's 32. 

This is going to be in the long term a problem for the Republican Party, they are whether they like it or not going to have to become more inclusive in the decades to come. Their most reliable voter blocks are older white people, and older people tend to die more often every 4 years. 

Who is to say those numbers remain consistant? This has been a trend for a long time, and would effect the GOP at this point. People who are older become more conservative. 

 

Anyway, WHY THE FUCK IS NO ONE REPORTIN THIS HERE: https://twitter.com/AP/status/896505346583408640?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

Soundwave on 12 August 2017
barneystinson69 said:
Soundwave said:

It election was millenials (18-29 yos) only, Clinton has 473 electoral votes to Trump's 32. 

This is going to be in the long term a problem for the Republican Party, they are whether they like it or not going to have to become more inclusive in the decades to come. Their most reliable voter blocks are older white people, and older people tend to die more often every 4 years. 

Who is to say those numbers remain consistant? This has been a trend for a long time, and would effect the GOP at this point. People who are older become more conservative. 

 

Anyway, WHY THE FUCK IS NO ONE REPORTIN THIS HERE: https://twitter.com/AP/status/896505346583408640?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Because demographic shifts don't favor Republicans in the long term either. The younger generation that will be coming up next, meaning those kids who are today under the age of 5 are the first American generation that will be majority minority. That is already a done deal. 

The country is getting more diverse, Republicans betting the entire farm on winning on the backs of old white people will lead their party into ruin eventually. 



AlfredoTurkey on 12 August 2017
barneystinson69 said:
AlfredoTurkey said:

No, because Trump (and Clinton) weren't popular enough to get them to the polls. Bad candidates tend to do that. 

Since when has turnout in American elections been good? Even when Ross Perot was on the ticket in 1992, turnout wasn't even at 60% (in fact, it was less than 1% higher than this election's turnout).

Trump won by gaming the electoral college. His people knew exactly what they were doing and pulled it off. But part of that winning formula was always based on stealth. They don't have that anymore because it happened and when you realize that Trump's supporters were out in full force, you quickly realize that 27% isn't going to cut it again. His approval rating is in the toilet... he's going to lose most moderates that voted for him... voter turn out will be better (in opposition)... he's finished.

Of course, this all hinders on him even being IN office by 2020. 



FIT_Gamer on 12 August 2017

Updated OP. David Duke says this rally "fulfills promises of Donald Trump".



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VGPolyglot on 12 August 2017
NATO said:
VGPolyglot said:

The thing is, there are attempts at education. But the problem is, many people are angry at the situation at hand, and there are malicious people that use that to their advantage by scapegoating certain groups and making it appear to be a simple and easy answer. It's hard to fight against false promises like that.

Eradicating racism, sexism, etc, is never going to be easy, I just think peoples time would be better invested in education rather than conflict.

Imagine people moblized in similar numbers and visited schools, kindergartens, highschools, colleges, engaging with children and establishing a dialog, not just to say "you should think this particular way" but engaging them on the things they currently believe and rather than saying "thats wrong" actually getting them to question themselves.

The younger generation is and always will be the key to ending the stupidity of humanity, and they're who we need to focus on if we truly want to end this.

You should recognize though that the education system is also playing a part of the problem in the first place, there are private schools where the more wealthy go to, and there are many segregated schools due to the way that poverty leads to ghettos. So, the education system would have to be almost completely transformed.



NATO on 12 August 2017

 

 



Aeolus451 on 12 August 2017
Soundwave said:
Aeolus451 said:

False. He probably have won by a larger margin. You attributed trump's win to racists (which is bullshit) but it was actually because of people who hate sjw/progressives and democrats like hillary. The younger generation is surprisingly very conservative/libertarian and more years of dealing with SJWs would have encouraged even more people to lean to the right.

You might be conservative, but majority of young people are not, if the election was only 18-24 year olds we can see from the exit polling that Trump loses that election easily. 

I'm saying racists are a *part* of his voter bloc, if you want to deny that go ahead, but I think deep down you know that's lie yourself. He doesn't want to alienate that group. 

And for a Republican every voter bloc counts because in all honesty they are not very easily able to win popular votes anymore. They need to eek out wins on electoral map technicalities to be able to win anymore. 

Americans under the age of 5 are already a majority minority population. In a few years, by 2020 majority of children under 18 will be a minority majority. That's the future of the American demographics ... as I've said in the long term Trump style politics are really in their last dying gasp. America is going to have to accept that it is already a massively multi-ethnic society.

I'm a right leaning libertarian. I don't like progressives/sjw, antifa types or the very religious "live as I do" right or the white supremacist types.

That's like saying that socialists are a part of democrat's voting bloc. That doesn't make the democrats socialists by association or anything like that. It's same with the white racists voting for some of the right. I don't believe there's alot of either. No one cares about their votes.

There's never been trump style politics before. It's a reaction to progressives in my opinion. Who knows if it die or live in. We can just agree to disagree on what the voter base will be like in the future. If you think it's all dems. lol



barneystinson69 on 12 August 2017
AlfredoTurkey said:
barneystinson69 said:

Since when has turnout in American elections been good? Even when Ross Perot was on the ticket in 1992, turnout wasn't even at 60% (in fact, it was less than 1% higher than this election's turnout).

Trump won by gaming the electoral college. His people knew exactly what they were doing and pulled it off. But part of that winning formula was always based on stealth. They don't have that anymore because it happened and when you realize that Trump's supporters were out in full force, you quickly realize that 27% isn't going to cut it again. His approval rating is in the toilet... he's going to lose most moderates that voted for him... voter turn out will be better (in opposition)... he's finished.

Of course, this all hinders on him even being IN office by 2020. 

Underestimating Trump is a very dangerous thing to do. Approvals now are meaningless, and Truman was able to win relelection with a 39% approval rating. Incumbency helps a lot when running for president.



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

NATO on 12 August 2017