Same problems as the first Splatoon, which means gameplay is a-okay, but for fucks sake why are the lobbies so bad. Salmon Run has the same deal. The mode is great, I love it... but I can't play it whenever I want. With ranked modes, ok I get it, but why the fuck do I have to wait until they decide I can play.

It's a decent sequel. It practically launched with all the content the original had at the end of its life, plus some extra stuff. All weapons, lots of maps, all modes, private battles, League battles + a few new weapons and Salmon Run. But it makes a lot of the same mistakes I had with the original. Why are there only 2 maps in rotation? Why can't I change weapons while waiting, or gear, or for the love of god something as simple as just leaving the lobby? Did you guys know if the lobby doesn't get filled, it either kicks you out, or the timer resets indefinitely until it finds people? And you can't do shit about that! Either wait or close the game.

Like I said, the game itself is beautiful, and at the end of the day I care about gameplay. But my UX with Splatoon 1 and 2 sucked incredibly badly.

Not every entry in a said franchise needs to reinvent the wheel to be worthy of the sequel label.While I do believe that Splatoon 2 was a victim of the need of a good first year software output, from what reviewers said and players said, it seems like a clear improvement over basically everything that the first one did.

For the point we are in time, both due to the failure of the Wii U and given the diversity of the other titles in the Switch, Splatoon 2 is more than fine as a sequel.

Wow...I was going to not comment on this thread anymore because I figure the whole point of it is to be the be all end all of Splatoon 2 "worthy-ness" discussion...... ya know like other people just put in their input and then leave the thread and then that's it ... but some of this just really hits a nerve

Not really. You can list anything in a big list and make it sound like a big improvement. That's about as much of a sequel as COD is. Cooking Mama 2 : New recipes, New "Mama's", New Graphics, New campaign ... like what lol.

Wroooooooooooooooooooonnnnnnnnng. At least about Smash Brothers. At least Mario Kart doesn't come out every 2 years though. Besides, some of the Mario Kart gimmicks implemented in some of the sequels change things a LOT. I don't think the same could be said for Splatoon 2

And no one said it needed to be...

If Splatoon 2 is a victim of first year lineup, then I don't know how you could say it's "more than fine". The best I could say about a sequel that was clearly rushed for a lineup is ... "it's fine". Besides, Splatoon 2's base game plays a lot like Splatoon after all it's updates, just with a bit of extra content. You kind of implied you hadn't played Splatoon 2 (or possibly 1 too) though so idk.

"It's ok but more could be done" is the perfect way to describe it.

Some of it just feels flat out lazy. Same final boss, same enemies, smaller plaza, less day-one content, only one new mode...they could have done SO much more.

Yeah. So much better to constantly tell people what they should or shouldn't do.

It's not a conventional sequel, it's more like a port of the original game with more content added in and some content taken out.

That said, Splatoon is my favorite new Nintendo IP of the last 20 years and it's going to be a monster hit because people need their Splatoon fix. Splatoon is not really a conventional, regular type of Nintendo franchise, it's really their first online-centric IP ever, and changing the formula too much would probably actually ruin it.

Haven't played cooking mama but I'll play the games today or tomorrow and get back to you on that.

Yearly CoD sequels in my opinion have lots of content. For a shooter game a new campaign, modes, weapons are enough to justify a new game. Splatoon has all of this so I see it as a great sequel but that's just my opinion.

Also I'm just wondering what would you have wanted in splatoon 2 to make it a good sequel?

Personally I wanted a more robust single-player with a more comprehensive storyline, instead of the same sort of arcade stages battling the same Octolings and trying to rescue the same Zapfish.

Adding a more robust single-player and including more new multiplayer modes on day-one would have been enough for me, in my opinion.

Is there that much of a diferent betwenn fine and more than fine?It seems that you are stressing over semantics.

As I stated, Im not saying that Splatoon 2 is the equivalent of BOTW to Zelda, but given that Splatoon is such a fresh concept, it plays wonderfully, even if its not my cup of tea(I have played the first one, so I know what Im saying), and the fact that this franchise wont become an annual franchise, or wont have a release once every two years(This happened for Splatoon 2 most likely due to the need of the Switch being a success and Splatoon 2 being the key to achieve that in Japan, or at least garantee that), I dont see a problem with a sequel that plays safe.Well, really safe in the case of Splatoon 2.

And given the new things it did receive, and the updates and new stuff it will eventually receive, I dont see it being much of an issue.As you said, its a mediocre(In my opinion, mediocre to good sequel), but given everything Nintendo has produced this year and will release, I cant really honestly complain that they want to play safe with one or two titles in order to get their new console off the ground.

'Dude okay, we get your point. Stop making this argument longer than it needs to be and go do what you know you must."

"Yeah. So much better to constantly tell people what they should or shouldn't do."

Really can't tell if Hynad was being ironic or if no one caught this.

But ok, it's clear that trying to start a discussion around Splatoon 2's value has been recieved negatively. So fine, I won't post here anymore.