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Turkish said:

 

Azzanation said:

Relax mate, there just plastic boxes that play games. One destroying the other in sales? Thats abit extreme to say for silly gaming dont you think. You are talking about multi billion dollar companies. I am sure they are crying. Phil looks so sad that the Xbox isnt outselling the PS4... i mean i thought the main idea for buisness was to make money however there seems to be a fantasy deathmatch going on behind closed doors that only the fans see.. i dont see it.

So was Nier, The Witness and majority of the PS4 games the other poster mentioned are all on PC and Xbox. Probably should read what i am replying too ;)

Helll naw. PS4 is a straight up beast. How else would you describe selling +35 million more than your closest competition: "ps4 is just selling more but it's a close race" lmao that's being disingenuous. It's utter domination of biblical proportions, not since the PS2 has a console obliterated the competition this much, not even the Wii. History is unfolding before our eyes mang, why you gotta be so negative.  Destruction, demolition, annihilation, they all mean the same thing. Go ahead with the euphemisms so long as you don't downplay the difference in sales. MS is terrified, petrified, horrified! Thats why they stopped reporting sales numbers, and bringing their games to PC because of the limited install base on their boxes. But Phil Spencer is chilling and happy, he doesn't care about selling more right :)

Those poor Xbox fans, what ever shall they do. Good games dont exist on platforms that dont sell the best. MS should just shut up shop and we should just forget games like Forza Horizon and Halo Franchise exist. 

Infact since Switch wont outsell the PS4 either we might as well throw Zelda in the bin.

That dominance man.. its too much.

What ever shall a multi billion dollar buisness do now.. I hope Phil will be ok.



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NawaiNey said:
Turkish said:

 

Helll naw. PS4 is a straight up beast. How else would you describe selling +35 million more than your closest competition: "ps4 is just selling more but it's a close race" lmao that's being disingenuous. It's utter domination of biblical proportions, not since the PS2 has a console obliterated the competition this much, not even the Wii. History is unfolding before our eyes mang, why you gotta be so negative.  Destruction, demolition, annihilation, they all mean the same thing. Go ahead with the euphemisms so long as you don't downplay the difference in sales. MS is terrified, petrified, horrified! Thats why they stopped reporting sales numbers, and bringing their games to PC because of the limited install base on their boxes. But Phil Spencer is chilling and happy, he doesn't care about selling more right :)

Don't forget the constasnt begging for crossplay to get a decent online community, so XB1 versions of games aren't ghost towns in weeks if not days.

I'm not following this thread or what conversation took place before this, but what the fuck is this nonsense? Crossplay exists in Rocket League and fucking Minecraft for crying out loud. If you think either of those games are "ghost towns" then you're beyond help.

I own and play on both consoles, haven't noticed any super large online difference in either platform. Naturally games will have larger fanbases on PS4, doesn't make Xbone a "ghost town" in comparison. That post is pure ignorance.



Minecraft and Rocket league are exemplary successes. Usually on the average game unless it's one of the top selling shooters it's hard to find a game on XB1, that's why MS is always begging Sony to do cross play with them. There's a new article about it almost weekly where one of MS execs can be seen taking part in the act.



CGI-Quality said:
Pinkie_pie said:
Justt wait til xbox x arrives. It will outsell ps4 worldwide until ps5 releases

I assume this is being facetious?

She's made this comment a few times prior. I'd like to know too. I'm thinking she's just kicking the beehive.



- "If you have the heart of a true winner, you can always get more pissed off than some other asshole."

Azzanation said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

Powerful systems are always last place in sales. Just look at PS1 vs N64, Xbox vs PS2, Wii vs PS3/360. Consoles make sales based on their libraries, and the PS4 has a library that blows Xbox out of the water. 

PS4 is more powerful than than the X1 and for the first 2 years the PS4 did not have a library advantage. Price and marketing is what sells consoles. You could have the worst line up in games and a console can still sell well depending on the marketing. 

Also PS1 and PS2 sold extremely well due to the fact they could play pirated games which obviously helped alot compared to the more expensive software selling N64. Free games is a very attractive thing for just about everybody.

There are a few points of contention among your comments to be sure. This one, it makes me have to massage my temples to relieve stress. Do you believe that? That those 2 systems sold well due to the fact they could play pirated games? Because that's what you said, and it's what I just repeated. You know that the Dreamcast had a prolific pirate scene, right? So did the original Xbox. I'll leave it at that and wish you a happy weekend.



- "If you have the heart of a true winner, you can always get more pissed off than some other asshole."

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COKTOE said:
Azzanation said:

PS4 is more powerful than than the X1 and for the first 2 years the PS4 did not have a library advantage. Price and marketing is what sells consoles. You could have the worst line up in games and a console can still sell well depending on the marketing. 

Also PS1 and PS2 sold extremely well due to the fact they could play pirated games which obviously helped alot compared to the more expensive software selling N64. Free games is a very attractive thing for just about everybody.

There are a few points of contention among your comments to be sure. This one, it makes me have to massage my temples to relieve stress. Do you believe that? That those 2 systems sold well due to the fact they could play pirated games? Because that's what you said, and it's what I just repeated. You know that the Dreamcast had a prolific pirate scene, right? So did the original Xbox. I'll leave it at that and wish you a happy weekend.

Thats exactly what i said. It plays a big part in system sales. Yes Dreamcast and Xbox were also piratable systems however not in the extreme of the PS1 and PS2. Where i am from, seeing a brought PS1 game is very rare, almost no one i knew brought there games and its a major reason why they brought a PS1 over a N64. I own a PS1 due to it being a chipped console aswell as all my friends and there families. At the time no body knew what a Playstation was instead of the fact you can get it chipped and get burnt games for it for free. 

Dont rubbed those temples too hard.

Enjoy your weekend.



Azzanation said:
COKTOE said:

There are a few points of contention among your comments to be sure. This one, it makes me have to massage my temples to relieve stress. Do you believe that? That those 2 systems sold well due to the fact they could play pirated games? Because that's what you said, and it's what I just repeated. You know that the Dreamcast had a prolific pirate scene, right? So did the original Xbox. I'll leave it at that and wish you a happy weekend.

Thats exactly what i said. It plays a big part in system sales. Yes Dreamcast and Xbox were also piratable systems however not in the extreme of the PS1 and PS2. Where i am from, seeing a brought PS1 game is very rare, almost no one i knew brought there games and its a major reason why they brought a PS1 over a N64. I own a PS1 due to it being a chipped console aswell as all my friends and there families. At the time no body knew what a Playstation was instead of the fact you can get it chipped and get burnt games for it for free. 

Dont rubbed those temples too hard.

Enjoy your weekend.

Whereever you're from is likely a very tiny market that doesn't even matter in the grand scheme of things. PS1/PS2 had the highest attach ratios of all time (though PS1 has now been surpassed by PS3, 360, Wii, PS2, and sits at number 5). That doesn't happen when piracy is rampant on a system, look at PSP for that, that's a system that sold a lot because you could pirate games on it which led to low attach rate and therefore publishers abondoning it because their games weren't selling. PS1/PS2 games sold better than anyone had seen games sell on a console, piracy being a problem on them makes as much sense as MS releasing a console a week after a Playstation and expecting to compete.lol



NawaiNey said:
Minecraft and Rocket league are exemplary successes. Usually on the average game unless it's one of the top selling shooters it's hard to find a game on XB1, that's why MS is always begging Sony to do cross play with them. There's a new article about it almost weekly where one of MS execs can be seen taking part in the act.

And yet, those "exemplary successes" are the only games in the discussion for crossplay. So yeah, you're wrong. My most played game of 2016 and thus far in 2017 is Battleborn, a game well known for its lackluster sales. Yet, I've never had issues finding a game. Titanfall was talked about here as a huge flop. Yet I was always able to find a match. Evolve is another MP focused title that sold poorly. Yet I reached #3 on the world wide leaderboard as Goliath at one point because I never had issues finding games. Hell even Pit People, an early access turn based strategy game, no problems finding games.

What MP games do you play on Xbone?



LudicrousSpeed said:
NawaiNey said:
Minecraft and Rocket league are exemplary successes. Usually on the average game unless it's one of the top selling shooters it's hard to find a game on XB1, that's why MS is always begging Sony to do cross play with them. There's a new article about it almost weekly where one of MS execs can be seen taking part in the act.

And yet, those "exemplary successes" are the only games in the discussion for crossplay. So yeah, you're wrong. My most played game of 2016 and thus far in 2017 is Battleborn, a game well known for its lackluster sales. Yet, I've never had issues finding a game. Titanfall was talked about here as a huge flop. Yet I was always able to find a match. Evolve is another MP focused title that sold poorly. Yet I reached #3 on the world wide leaderboard as Goliath at one point because I never had issues finding games. Hell even Pit People, an early access turn based strategy game, no problems finding games.

What MP games do you play on Xbone?

It's sad because it's a downward spiral, there's not a big enough population on XB1 for multiplayer games, which leads to even lower sales for XB1 in the future and the problem is getting bigger and bigger. It's now wonder why MS is so in favor of crossplay now and pretending to be pro-consumer, when they wanted nothing to do with it last gen when they had a sizable online community.



And yet I just listed for you three poorly selling games on both consoles (Evolve and BB anyway) that are still very easy to find games in on both platforms. I own them both on PS4, Xbone, and PC. Are you trying to say a lower selling game is fine but larger selling games have low communities? Just trying to follow this lulz logic.

What MP games do you play on Xbone?