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Forums - Sales Discussion - Just how much is PS4 beating Xbox One in sales this year?

Here's what we know about PS4:

  1. The PS4 sold 53.4 million by January 1st 2017.
  2. It shipped 57.1 million in the same time meaning 2.7 million PS4's were on shelves at the beginning of this year.
  3. It sold 60.4 million units by June 11th 2017 meaning it sold 7 million units in 5 months and 11 days.
  4. It shipped 63.3 million units by June 30th meaning it shipped 6.2 million in 6 months. (This is why shipment and sold through numbers paint a different picture)
  5. According to NPD leaks, it has sold 1,780,423 units in the US in 2017 as of June 30th.

Here's what we think we know about Xbox One:

  1. EA estimated that the current gen consoles (WiiU not included) had sold 79 million units between them as of January 2017. Subtracting PS4's 53.4 million from 79 million leaves 25.6 million. Could this be Xbox Ones sales numbers as of the beginning of this year?
  2. According to NPD leaks, Xbox One had sold 988,946 units in the US in 2017 as of June 30th. Roughly 55% of what PS4 sold in the same time frame.
  3. Oddly enough, according to VGChartz platform totals, Xbox One has sold roughly 55% of it's total units in the US.

Using these metrics we can build a clearer picture of just how the Xbox One is faring against the PS4 in 2017 so far, as well as giving a good guess at it's total life time sales derived from the most accurate sources we have.

So first off, if the Xbox One failed to muster up a million in the US (more than half of it's overall market) in 6 months, can we assume it was at less than 2 million world wide in the same time? If we go by the 55% in US rule, this could put Xbox One at around 1.8 million overall for 2017 as of June 30th. A far cry from PS4's 7 million as of June 11th.

Now if we are willing to rock with EA's numbers of 25.6 million Xbox Ones as of January 2017, this would put Xbox Ones total at 27.4 million on June 30th. This may be undershooting it, and it hinges on the idea that EA's estimates were more accurate than VGChartz and the optimistic Xbox faithful, and that the NPD leaks were legit (though they are yet to be disputed). But looking at what info we have, there's nothing that paints the picture that the Xbox One has sold even 2 million units in the first 6 months of 2017. It's apparent that these two consoles are in a completely different sales class, more than what most Xboxers would be willing to admit. Anyway does anyone have all the NPD numbers since 2013? Surely we can estimate Xbox Ones sales using that?

I'm thinking 28 million Xbox Ones sold as of now, maybe 62 million PS4's. I predict 7 million Xbox Ones, 20 million PS4's for 2017.



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1,780,423 to 528



Well, it's about 2 to 1 this year in NA, 3 to 1 in Europe presumably including UK, and god knows how many to 1 in Asia and the Middle East (it's currently 200 to 1 in Japan), so it's probably pretty sizable this year. But the one tends to have better percentages in the holidays and one x will give it a nice boost, so likely the gap won't look as harsh after the holidays. 



LudicrousSpeed said:
1,780,423 to 528

Since you're an Xboxer, what is your thoughts on this? Is it fuckery or is there truth to it?



Problem with the Xbox brand is that the platform's performance is overly reliant on strong US performance which is never going to put you in a good position against competitors. Japan they have no chance and EU is Sony dominated but even then if you look at both their competitors they are at least doing well in more than one region and decent enough in their weakest region.

US is an even playing field for all competitors meaning no one is weak in that market or at a huge disadvantage and that's the problem with relying on it, in Japan Nintendo may dominate due to the Portable aspects but Sony still do well enough to get decent perfomance while the Xbox brand just doesn't take off and in EU Sony dominate but Nintendo do well enough while X1 can do ok in EU it lags significantly behind both at the moment.

Essentially what you have for the X1 is that it's doing well in one region, okish in another and is dead in the last one and the region it's strongest in it's being beaten out by the competitors which isn't a good spot at all.



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Well we know that XBO was tracking ahead of the 360 up until the end of last year so by the end of last year it had sold under 28 million units but considering that the XBO sold on par with the 360 I'm the US and 360 had a bigger presence In Europe compared to the XBO EAs estimates are probably close to the actual sales. And Yea the XBO has had a pretty bad year overall. It started out good but its sales fell around march.



jason1637 said:
And Yea the XBO has had a pretty bad year overall. It started out good but its sales fell around march.

PS4
Jan: 210,665
Feb: 398,407
Mar: 396,726
Apr: 206,247
May: 187,182
Jun: 381,196

XB1
Jan: 157,545
Feb: 215,418
Mar: 243,514
Apr: 109,950
May: 109,130
Jun: 153,389

Already in feb. its sales where looking poor compaired to the PS4 (in the US).

World wide the differnce is going to be massive, since US is like 60% of XB1 sales, while for PS4 its probably less than 1/3 (33%).

 

Wyrdness said:
Problem with the Xbox brand is that the platform's performance is overly reliant on strong US performance

Yep.

 

LethalP said:

I'm thinking 28 million Xbox Ones sold as of now, maybe 62 million PS4's. I predict 7 million Xbox Ones, 20 million PS4's for 2017.

I wouldnt be surprised if this is close to being right. Xbox One probably still isnt over 30m.



Hiku said:

Not by much.
You see XBO is only about 2-4 million in sales behind PS4 worldwide.
That's right, Xbox One has sold around 57-59m.

How do I know? A guy who called me a "pony" and then blocked me told me this.

Did this guy also tell you that cancelling Scalebound was great for gamers? 



Hiku said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

Did this guy also tell you that cancelling Scalebound was great for gamers? 

That was probably next on the list of things he was going to educate me on.

Funny thing is, he actually thanked Aqua for NPD numbers, meaning he was aware of the US sales. I guess he assumed that XBO was outselling PS4 in Europe.

It just doesn't make sense. Wouldn't Microsoft be announcing these sales numbers if they were that close to Playstation 4? Lmao haha.



Not surprised, let the playstation domination continue, it's better this way.