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Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age - Job Combinations?

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Aura7541 said:

Ashe makes a pretty good Bushi because katanas take strength and magic into account. A white mage/bushi combination is good for Ashe because the magick lore licenses from the Bushi class allows her for high healing/magick damage output as well as high katana damage.

 

I don't think Bushi/WH is that good. You get just 3 Magick lore licences a and healing. Healing is good, but not for damage dealers. I would give bushi job with Heavy Armor, more strenght is better. Knight is good combo. Heavy Armor, shields (for Khumba). And knight gets mystic armor. Excalibur plus White Robe is one of strongets combinations. Hits for 40k are always fun.



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brendude13 said:
I spent ages looking into this. Apparently there are optimum setups so that each character has access to 3 swiftness unlocks. Then there is taking into account what can be considered canon classes for each character.

I eventually went for:

Vaan - Shikari / Foebreaker
Ashe - Time Battlemage / White mage
Penelo - Monk / Black mage
Fran - Red battlemage / Archer
Basch - Bushi / Knight
Balthier - Machinist / Uhlan

Ooh I think I like the look of that party, it uses all the jobs, and gives people the jobs I think they should have based on what I know about them, which is basically looking at a picture of them and saying "Hmm... this person looks like [insert job]"

Having Balthier with Uhlan would mean he can use guns AND swords, right? That definitely fits more in line with the sky pirate thing, lol. Although I'd probably swap the order of which some people get jobs, for example, Ashe would be White Mage first, Penelo Black Mage, Fran Archer, and Basch Knight, simply because they're more traditional roles and I'd feel more comfortable having them from the start, but the job pairings there do look like they'd make sense, except for one thing;

Would Vaan be better off as Shikari/Bushi, and Basch be Knight/Foebreaker? 



Bristow9091 said:
deskpro2k3 said:

Vaan: Bushi/Shikari = HP, tank, damage dealer, mystic armor. (Black Robe: dark elemental damage +50% + Yagyu Darkblade = Yiazmat killer)

Balthier: Time Battlemage/Foebreaker = Breaker, Buffer/Debuff. (Crossbow ranged damage, or close range with hammer or axe)

Fran: Red Battlemage/Archer = Support, Range damage, Access to Ardor (Oil + Burning bow + Fiery Arrows + Ardor = Massive fire damage.. strongest hitting damage in the game)

Penelo: Monk/Blackmage = lots of HP, swiftness, access to Holy magick, access to Staff of the Magi: +50% Holy Damage (Blackmage with Holy? Holyshit!)

Basch: Knight/Bushi = Tank, lots of HP. access to white magick, mystic armor (White Robe: holy elemental damage +50% + Excalibur = God combo Undead killing machine)

Ashe: Whitemage/Machinist  = Machinist guns adds a fixed amount of damage, access to time magick and lots of HP for survival.


there is no right or wrong, I choose this strictly for making trial mode alittle bit easier.

Would Balthier be able to switch out one of those classes for Machinist and still be viable? The reason I ask is because I'd REALLY want to use him with guns, considering he's a sky pirate and is always shown with guns, lol. Although I did some reading and it seems both Time Battlemage and White Mage have the haste/slow abilities, so I wouldn't want to switch it with Ashe and give her two jobs that have a lot of overlap. 

... Could Ashe maybe be White Mage/Monk, Penelo be Black Mage/Fobreaker, and then let Balthier be Machinist/Time Battlemage?

I know you say there's no right or wrong, but I'd like the jobs I give my characters to make sense... y'know, a guy shown holding guns all the time, should probably have a job which includes guns, lol.

 

Hmm keep in mind Machinist/Time Battlemage combo is doubling up on your two sources of time magic. Guns being stat independent so you don't need high strength to use them, and Crossbows requiring high strength. What the Time Mage needs is a job that either provides more strength, or more magic. The Machinist provides neither because the Machinist needs neither.

Also you see, guns giving a fixed amount of damage and can shoot from a safe distance, so that's why I pair it with Ashe as Whitemage. Monk has Holy, and Blackmage has the highest MAG, so I went Penelo Monk/Blackmage just to maximize the damage of Holy.



deskpro2k3 said:

Hmm keep in mind Machinist/Time Battlemage combo is doubling up on your two sources of time magic. Guns being stat independent so you don't need high strength to use them, and Crossbows requiring high strength. What the Time Mage needs is a job that either provides more strength, or more magic. The Machinist provides neither because the Machinist needs neither.

Also you see, guns giving a fixed amount of damage and can shoot from a safe distance, so that's why I pair it with Ashe as Whitemage. Monk has Holy, and Blackmage has the highest MAG, so I went Penelo Monk/Blackmage just to maximize the damage of Holy.

Wait, so Machinist has time magic such as haste/slow too? 



Machinist has TM 8 (Warp, Vanishga), 9 (Slowga, Reflectga) and 9 (Hastega, Graviga). All of them are enabled by Famfrit.



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Nanaki said:
Machinist has TM 8 (Warp, Vanishga), 9 (Slowga, Reflectga) and 9 (Hastega, Graviga). All of them are enabled by Famfrit.

Ah that's good to know then, guess I won't need Machinist/Time Battlemage afterall, will probably go Machinist/Uhlan as mentioned by brendude, that way Balthier uses guns, swords, and has access to slow and haste spells, so it's win/win for me, lol :P 



Bristow9091 said:
brendude13 said:
I spent ages looking into this. Apparently there are optimum setups so that each character has access to 3 swiftness unlocks. Then there is taking into account what can be considered canon classes for each character.

I eventually went for:

Vaan - Shikari / Foebreaker
Ashe - Time Battlemage / White mage
Penelo - Monk / Black mage
Fran - Red battlemage / Archer
Basch - Bushi / Knight
Balthier - Machinist / Uhlan

Ooh I think I like the look of that party, it uses all the jobs, and gives people the jobs I think they should have based on what I know about them, which is basically looking at a picture of them and saying "Hmm... this person looks like [insert job]"

Having Balthier with Uhlan would mean he can use guns AND swords, right? That definitely fits more in line with the sky pirate thing, lol. Although I'd probably swap the order of which some people get jobs, for example, Ashe would be White Mage first, Penelo Black Mage, Fran Archer, and Basch Knight, simply because they're more traditional roles and I'd feel more comfortable having them from the start, but the job pairings there do look like they'd make sense, except for one thing;

Would Vaan be better off as Shikari/Bushi, and Basch be Knight/Foebreaker? 

Forgot to mention I wanted to use all jobs too. I also based the mage choices on this artwork:

I feel like Basch is also an Archer and Ashe a Knight, but I didn't want to use the same job twice. Knight / Foebreaker isn't one I've seen listed before as an optimum combination. It could be, it's just not in the guide I used.

Apparently it's good to put the Knight and White Mage as well as Time Battlemage and Machinist in different parties as their buffs and healing abilities overlap.



brendude13 said:

Forgot to mention I wanted to use all jobs too. I also based the mage choices on this artwork:

[Picture]

I feel like Basch is also an Archer and Ashe a Knight, but I didn't want to use the same job twice. Knight / Foebreaker isn't one I've seen listed before as an optimum combination. It could be, it's just not in the guide I used.

Apparently it's good to put the Knight and White Mage as well as Time Battlemage and Machinist in different parties as their buffs and healing abilities overlap.

Yeah, that's what I've been doing to determine what I want my jobs to be, looking at pictures lol :P I'll probably end up following the job choices you've put here since they seem like rather logical choices that would pair really well together... Which characters do you use in your main party, or do you just switch them all around as you go along?

Also, you mention a guide, is it an online guide, and if so would you mind linking it here? I'm interested lol.



Forums on GameFaqs are quite dumb, too much crazy fanboys, but their sticky topics and FAQs itself are usualy quite good.

Try this topics:
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/191202-final-fantasy-xii-the-zodiac-age/75557762 About Licences boards
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/191202-final-fantasy-xii-the-zodiac-age/75477310 Jobs combinations



I started again with my game, not only because I accidentily saved over a game and lost 4-5 hours of gameplay but because I didn't like my combinations, I think it's actually a little silly how lost in it all you can get, deciding who should do what and looking over the boards to check things don't clash. I think some of the boards are weird too, layout wise, having things locked behind Espers, having magiks just chucked in what should be an attacking board mainly. About 5 boards have Drain for example.

Anywho, hope people make good choices but in reality, the game is easier, so other than you know who at the end, I'm sure whatever roles you have characters pick, it won't affect the game too much (I beat the bird before Tomb of Raithwall and Vossler with Quickenings only.... like what?



Hmm, pie.