With ps4 still selling so good, having a 500 $ competitor can help sony a lot.

While XBX can't really sell big numbers, it prevents Microsoft from releasing a new machine in -at least- the next two years. Sony has all the interest in launching at the same time of microsoft: 1 because more time means more power gap with ps4 pro 2 because launching at the same time allow sony to not have power gaps with the xbox one successors.

So basically sony can have two more years of massive sales without any real competition (at least from microsoft).

What do you think?

I agree, I don't see XboneX becoming a success.

The new Atari console however...

I think that, at this point and given the advantage that the PS4 had, the PS5 would have been 2 years away at the very least in any scenario.XOne image is so damaged, at least compared to the PS brand, that a year advantage wouldnt make that much of a difference.And thats not to mention that XBox seems to be going away from a tradicional hardware manufacturer and wanting to become more of a service-based division.

Personally I think that Sony worries should lie with Nintendo, and as far as this generation goes, PS4 have nothing to really worry about.

I thought this thread would be about how with another enhanced console devs will support and get more use out of the Pro.
Sony still would have waited to probably 2020 for the PS5 if the XB1X wasn't a thing because the PS4 would have continued to sell.

I also helps as an anchor... when people see X1X being 500, both vanilla PS4 and PS4Pro will look better (PS4Pro won't look as pricey anymore).

I dont think how Microsoft could release the Xbox (real) successor before the PS5, they would be screwing up SO HARD the X1X buyers.

With that said, i hope the PS5 and the Xbox 2 release within a year of each other and with similar specs.

Maybe it is a OCD of mine, but i like my generations to be linear to each competitor. Im used to the Big 3 releasing close to each other and these Mid Generations are pissing me off!

Double Post

Both MS and Sony have every interest in launching their 9th gen not earlier than Q4 2019, because the game they can play is different from Ninty one, so they need to play their own game and offer a big performance jump, and possibly VR support and other features, at a decent price.
And if they decided to play Ninty game and launch hybrids, they'd need even more time, even if they started developing them as soon as Ninty revealed enough infos on the Switch, their machines wouldn't be ready before Q4 2020, but 2021 would be better to give 3rd parties enough time to offer enough games at launch (MS and Sony need more 3rd party support than Ninty to succeed).
So yes, MS releasing XBX and not rushing XBTwo is good for Sony, but it's the best choice for MS itself too.
About sales, it will have roughly the same relative success as PS4 Pro compared to their respective base models, giving XBOne roughly the same percent boost PS4 Pro gave PS4, so it won't ever give XBOne the victory, but it will surely better its total sales and make PS4 domination a little less embarrassing.
Against it there is its high price, in its favour its higher performances, so its appeal on techno enthusiasts, and the fact that Sony underestimated PS4 Pro potential, producing for a while fewer units than it could sell, this can help MS to estimate better the number of units it needs at launch to fully exploit its potential.

Yeah, same. I think the x will encourage devs to spend more time on the pro, as well, such as the Witcher 3 devs, just as most games with pro patches are also upgrading for the x. 

They'd end up with egg on their face, but why not release a new Xbox (4?) in another year or so? Or maybe we're missing the point, if Microsoft really believes in incremental improvements over time it'll just keep putting out better Xbox Ones. I think that's a mistaken strategy, but it means they could just release a new model every 12 months.