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The state of illinois issued lay off notices to hundreds of employees because the sweetened beverage tax was delayed

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KLAMarine said:
Snoopy said:

The difference is we are forced to pay taxes or we are thrown in the government's cage.

You aren't forced to pay taxes. You could go live out in the wilderness away from the infrastructure paid for by taxes.

Snoopy said:

At least when a company waste money or an organization that's on them.

People still lose their jobs there.

Yep and die I guess. Also, you might lose your job, but if you have skills you are employable so keep that chin up.



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VAMatt said:
All governments waste money. That's the only thing they're good at. So, if you want them to stop wasting tax money, you're going to need to abolish government.

But it on next years ballot and lets see what happens.



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spurgeonryan said:
VAMatt said:
All governments waste money. That's the only thing they're good at. So, if you want them to stop wasting tax money, you're going to need to abolish government.

But it on next years ballot and lets see what happens.

It is damn near impossible to get referenda on most ballots.  But, I do work everyday to abolish parts of government, with the end goal of eliminating the whole concept of the state.  



vivster said:
Just another reason why taxes should be handled on the federal level. God I hate state rights.

Yeah so that they can be wasted on trillion dollar planes. 

http://time.com/money/4310099/f-35-budget-pay-free-college-student-loans/

Right... 

Tell me how many unitary states with populations greater than 320 million exist in the world? China? There is a reason why federalism exists, a few hundred people can't properly manage and represent the interests of large and diverse populations. 



vivster said:
Just another reason why taxes should be handled on the federal level. God I hate state rights.

LOL, youre a funny guy. The federal government is terrible with money as well.

Government makes these problems and your solution is more government. How about reduce spending?



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Mr Puggsly said:
vivster said:
Just another reason why taxes should be handled on the federal level. God I hate state rights.

LOL, youre a funny guy. The federal government is terrible with money as well.

Government makes these problems and your solution is more government. How about reduce spending?

Wait a few years (I'd say it could be done in 10), and put AI in charge of large parts of the government. Optimization/managment is something our current tech excels at, so it's just a few ethical details that need to be specified.



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VAMatt said:
All governments waste money. That's the only thing they're good at. So, if you want them to stop wasting tax money, you're going to need to abolish government.

Or have AI to make decisions more efficient.



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We could try communism. It always works.


Anyways, if they couldn't afford them before the new tax, why is the new tax the reason for the layoff?



KLAMarine said:
Snoopy said:

The difference is we are forced to pay taxes or we are thrown in the government's cage.

You aren't forced to pay taxes. You could go live out in the wilderness away from the infrastructure paid for by taxes.

Snoopy said:

At least when a company waste money or an organization that's on them.

People still lose their jobs there.

Govt won't allow that. They find ways to force you. Primarily under threat of some form of violence. You can't even go into the wilderness. You get nailed for tresspassing on federal lands. You get nailed for fishing if you didn't pay the license fee(tax). Lots of stories of the years of people trying to do just what you suggest. Government will find d a way to hammer you if you do. Or you can rot away on a park bench. Taxes are absolutely forced.



Screw my state..