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TallSilhouette said:
Is it over? At least as far as healthcare is concerned? Like, for real this time? No more fast, loose, and ultra shady attempts at repealing and/or replacing the ACA with some form of the AHCA? No more delays and necros in order to rebrand it and finagle more votes? Can we put this behind us for the foreseeable future? I want to believe...

Considering the dozens of tries to repeal Obamacare when Republicans had no chance during the Obama administration I doubt they have any thoughts of giving up in the next few decades. I mean it's like 80% of the political platform they're running on.



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vivster said:
barneystinson69 said:

Hopefully we can now see some bipartisanship on this issue. Thank you Mccain for doing the right thing.

And how will that work when Democrats want to extend Healthcare and Republicans cut it? Why would Democrats agree to any measures that would make Obamacare worse? And those are the only measures Republicans want to take.

They'd have a more realistic success with a bipartisan vote to impeach the president.

The GOP wants Obamacare to cost less to taxpayers, and wants lower premiums. Democrats can agree with this, so I don't see what the problem is. I'm hoping things can change, and I thank Mccain for sticking to his promise.



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hm..
I think Trump can win the reelection now by intoducing a bill to rebrand Obamacare to Trumpcare (ofcourse "Obamacare" is only a nickname the GOP/Fox gave the ACA, but none of the (R) voters know that or care) and then campaigning on that he gave the people the best healthcare in decades



barneystinson69 said:
vivster said:

And how will that work when Democrats want to extend Healthcare and Republicans cut it? Why would Democrats agree to any measures that would make Obamacare worse? And those are the only measures Republicans want to take.

They'd have a more realistic success with a bipartisan vote to impeach the president.

The GOP wants Obamacare to cost less to taxpayers, and wants lower premiums. Democrats can agree with this, so I don't see what the problem is. I'm hoping things can change, and I thank Mccain for sticking to his promise.

Where did they say this? Obamacare is already barely working due to countless exceptions for people to opt out of it. How the fuck would you make Healthcare better by making tax payers pay even less?

That's like saying "We will fix the infrastructure of the country by cutting income tax to 0%". Because who needs money to pay for services.



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barneystinson69 said:
vivster said:

And how will that work when Democrats want to extend Healthcare and Republicans cut it? Why would Democrats agree to any measures that would make Obamacare worse? And those are the only measures Republicans want to take.

They'd have a more realistic success with a bipartisan vote to impeach the president.

The GOP wants Obamacare to cost less to taxpayers, and wants lower premiums. Democrats can agree with this, so I don't see what the problem is. I'm hoping things can change, and I thank Mccain for sticking to his promise.

That's a fucking joke.

https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/healthcare/news/2017/07/25/436642/skinny-repeal-bill-raise-average-premiums-1238-increase-uninsured/

Stop talking out of your ass and show me some proof.



sethnintendo said:
barneystinson69 said:

The GOP wants Obamacare to cost less to taxpayers, and wants lower premiums. Democrats can agree with this, so I don't see what the problem is. I'm hoping things can change, and I thank Mccain for sticking to his promise.

That's a fucking joke.

https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/healthcare/news/2017/07/25/436642/skinny-repeal-bill-raise-average-premiums-1238-increase-uninsured/

Oh good god...

Look, its 1:18 am, so I'm probably going to leave after saying this (in case I say something I regret later on). The bill itself wasn't suppose to be drafted into law, most republicans in the senate didn't like the bill, and only voted for it because they were promised it wouldn't be put into law. The goal of passing this was to ultimately bring this back into the house, and start working on getting amendments into place. This bill itself was a fucking joke, so to say this represented what the GOP wanted is ahrdly accurate.

And maybe you can calm down a little bit (I saw the edit in your statement). You can hear Ted Cruz's statement if you like, but its late, so I'll save my discussion for the morning.



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Puppyroach said:
Thank goodness that the house and senate has had the most incompetent republicans of our time on place so that they can fail even when they have the majority 🙂.

Well I'm annoyed they haven't come up with something they all agree with, I'm glad they're avoiding passing something broken like ACA.



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barneystinson69 said:
sethnintendo said:

That's a fucking joke.

https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/healthcare/news/2017/07/25/436642/skinny-repeal-bill-raise-average-premiums-1238-increase-uninsured/

Oh god...

Look, its 1:18 am, so I'm probably going to leave after saying this (in case I say something I regret later on). The bill itself wasn't suppose to be drafted into law, most republicans in the senate didn't like the bill, and only voted for it because they were promised it wouldn't be put into law. The goal of passing this was to ultimately bring this back into the house, and start working on getting amendments into place. This bill itself was a fucking joke, so to say this represented what the GOP wanted is ahrdly accurate.

So what is the point on voting on a bill that won't become law.  They didn't put it up for debate or amendments.  They tried to push this turd through.  It's their own damn fault.  It's like going into to solving a problem with no solution.  It does represent the GOP accurately.  They are a joke.



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