Nintendo would not relinquish control even in part to a competitor. We should instead talk about what sort of possible business deals made with respect for each other's business models could take place. There is not as many of these as you would think.

They still wouldn't beat PlayStation

Eh Sony wasn't innocent either. They pretty much wanted total control and most the profits. That wasn't a good deal for Nintendo either.

That's the thing. Bringing up the notion doesn't make any sense, whether I think it makes sense or not. I personally can't see Microsoft and Nintendo working together, short or long term, even as a "what if" or as a joke. Both have different ends, dynamics and workstyles. I don't think I'm the only one thinking it's inconceivable.

Besides, I don't know why are you getting so hell bent on immediately discarding my opinion just because this thread is a "what if". Chill out!

You're clearly wrong, No, get over yourself ;)

MS does not have to ruin Nintendo because it would only be a partnership not a takeover.

Nintendo could fix and improve Rare like they did in the 90's

- Yes it can, you do realise both Nintendo and MS are multi-billion dollar companies right? Nintendo doesn't make powerful hardware because they simply can't afford to compete with both Sony and MS both of which are at least 50x bigger than Nintendo only for them to bleed money, hell they sold the WiiU at a loss. The Switch is a great console but it's not as powerfull and it's 300$ together with MS they could easily create a powerful and innovative system and sell it at 400 like any PS4 and Xbone.

- Nintendo is not as mainstream because whenever you talk about console wars, graphics comparisons, and multiplatform games it's Playstation vs Xbox Nintendo is really just a bystander in most cases who goes his own way.

- Rare was a talented and respected team before they joined Nintendo but after they joined Nintendo they reached legendary status. Why, you ask? They had a healthy working relationship with Nintendo higher ups like Miyamoto and helped each other out. You can look up the interviews and it even shows in the games they created Super Mario 64 > Banjoo Kazooie, Ocarina of Time > Dinosaur Planet (SFA) Mario Kart 64 > Diddy Kong Racing, really all you need to do is play those games. Even the founders of Rare were baffled Nintendo didn't buy them so Nintendo did have i big influence on Rare and vice versa.

For a system that could have a Mario & Halo exclusively that would be the best second place ever.

Nintendo would not let themselves buy out, i don't think Phil Spencer would even try that given the amount of respect he has for Nintendo.

The question is why Nintendo backed out... Exactly.

Exactly, really their 1st and 2nd party development studios wouldnt even need to be involved with each other. They could all just create their separate well known IP's like they used to for the same system.

Unified platform would be a big advantage for us gamers but we need that competition, i only brought up the idea of MS joining forces with Nintendo because they could improve on each others weaknesses and become a beast of a competitor to Sony.

In my eyes Sony is the only one who fucked up, had they not been so greedy assholes we could have gotten the Nintendo Playstation instead of the shitty Philips CDi but on the flipside of the coin we probably wouldn't have gotten the PS1 or who knows, really.

I think MS and Nintendo could create one unique console which includes the best of both worlds.

Please, say you're just being edgy.

That's exactly what i'm saying.

That's really all i'm talking about a MS and Nintendo could bring both of their talents to an unique console.

I think Playstation would shit his pants.

Snoorlax no they wouldn't. A Nintendo and Microsoft combo wouldn't hurt Sony.

Wow man....there's being misinformed which is very understandable, and then there's being a living meme. These literally sound like jokes someone would say on a gaming forum(ayeeeeeeeeeeeeee).

-Uhm....you...you don't think Nintendo is a multi-billion dollar company too? Are you kidding me? Nintendo is worth more than Sony and if you were to focus on just Microsoft's gaming division, Nintendo would probably be the richest console manufacturer. Like seriously, I would expect that someone with a Professor Oak avatar would be on the former defending Nintendo with a shield and sword on hand, not spouting stuff that an out of touch 12 year old might say. I mean I can somewhat understand assuming that Nintendo is worth les than Sony and Microsoft, but you really think that they aren't a multi-billion dollar company? 

The rest of what you say is kind of confusing. If you're implying Nintendo didn't make a powerful console because they can't afford it, or because they didn't have the R&D to make a more powerful switch, then that's simply wrong. If you're implying that they made the Switch because they couldn't risk making a powerful console, or because they couldn't stand in two seperate markets(home and handheld consoles) then that's right but ... you're talking about merging Microsoft and Nintendo in which I would assume there'd be one console like a Switch. Microsoft contributing to a Nintendo console wouldn't solve anything except online features. I had to rewrite this entire paragraph cause what you're saying is really vague and can be interpreted many ways.

- That... do you even know half the stuff you're saying? Nintendo might not be a "competitor in the console wars!" but that's becuase they don't want to be. They're being competitive by doing their own thing, they're not ignoring the market. Being "mainstream" has nothing to do with whether or not some 12 year old mentions you in a fictituos war and everything to do with how much product you sell, in which case Nintendo is most definitely mainstream. There is an element to competition but the "console wars" does not need to exist for Nintendo or Sony or Microsoft to be mainstream.

- I never said it didn't have an infuence on them in the past, but most of the people who made Rare great are gone, they either work for Platonic games or some other studio. 

I'm waiting for the punchline because this seriously sounds like post 2001 discussion.

Why?

Uhm... In Europe maybe, worldwide I don't think so.