Well Saints Row is a better franchise then Crackdown of couse Agents of Mayhem looks better then Crackdown 3.

it doesn't look anything special for certain, but C3's biggest problem remains it's release date

To be fair, Sunset Overdrive whilst having a ton of charm... Is starting to show it's age now graphically.
It's still IMHO one of the best exclusives on the Xbox and is worthy of being in any serious Xbox One collection, but that just says allot about how good that game is and how poorly the Xbox as a whole is doing on the exclusives front.

Sadly, I think sales were shit so I doubt we will get a sequel.

It is graphically simple. Take a closer look at the game and you will see that the game lacks any kind of real fine detail that we have come to expect this console generation. - Geometry is all flat, character models look simple.
The lighting isn't anything to write home about.
The art style helps hide the texture work, so that's a plus.

If that is the concession they had to make for city-wide destruction to work then I am fine with that as Gameplay is ultimately more important, but Microsoft hasn't been very communicative on that front... And that is turning gamers off as this thread shows.

I'll pick it up either way, Microsoft's exclusives need every little bit of support they can get right now.

I can see what they tried to do. People who never play any games are easy to get excited about something if they don't have anything to compare it with.
This approach only works though if the consumer itself is unfamiliar wit the product.

Problem here is, gamers will ignore how excited these people are and focus on the sub par graphics and game play.

I remember the first one as having more color, however that was in a very brown/grey generation so it could just be those rose tinted glasses :)

However if you want to see something bad, I just played a $5 PSVR game, Heroes of the seven seas. A Gear VR port...

It looks much worse in VR, the scale is all wrong, those guns feel like small size cars, with my arms 10 meters apart lol. 2017 gaming!
Oddly it wasn't that bad to play for a little bit, ugh somebody make a real game already.

I don't think better PR is gonna change much; the game just doesn't look that good. It got that initial wave of hype back in 2014 because of "teh Cloud", and being very deceitful with its functionality. Now, the game looks significantly worse than it did then, and nothing about screams buy. It looks like a poor man's Saint's Riw, like there's some cool weapons, but you're gonna quickly get bored after a few hours of blowing up cars with them.

lol, how were they "very deceitful" about cloud functionality? They said from day one that it's for the MP mode and is not tied to the SP. Which is still the case. It is strange that they haven't shown it yet though. The game was supposed to release in two waves, MP first and then SP. It would be funny if it switched and the SP came out in November and they delayed the MP.

People would be claiming they got conned by Xbox, and demanding refunds.

Feel like people that buy this, will forget about its single player (it looks meh), and just play the multiplayer part.

Alot of people that pick this up will be to try the destruction stuff.

Just watch and see...there won't be enormous dynamic destruction in MP mode...it was just a huge marketing lie to make look X1 more powerful. Everybody with some technical knowledge knew this since years already. Or why do you think they didn't show off one bit yet. Why would they willingly show off something underwhelming instead of that great destruction multiplayer?! Everyone was expecting that at E3 already and they showed a heavily disappointing trailer. Why would they do that if they had better stuff to show?!

Agents of Mayhem is going to fail I think, its got no hype and really the gameplay isnt that exciting from what I can tell. I'll get it but only once its gone cheap i think.