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LudicrousSpeed said:
KiigelHeart said:
OMG hot chicks who don't know how to play video games ---> pre-order cancelled.

lol exactly. I mean... I guess the OP has never seen Clueless Gamer with Conan.

Then again the OP did say they should delay the game because the graphics aren't purty, linking an article that also said the game was a blast to play. Crackdown 3 just makes people post weird stuff.

So a comedy segment is supposed to draw the same reaction as  a livestream for gamers and comic con enthusiasts. Three cheers for logic!!

 

 

P.S. 

 

Please don't ever write a script. I doubt you even know who it was that made the video either. That dudes one of the biggest Xbox fans in the world. His gamerscore proves it.



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Looks interesting, but not like a AAA game.

 

btw Saints Row 4 looks better than this graphically and the gameplay too.



Yeah.... Saints Row 3/4 on last-gen looked better then what's shown in that video.

I'd only seen e3 footage before really, didn't realise it looked this bad, and with the whole cars glitching... it's looking like this game could be a disaster.



What time next year is this coming out?



 

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S.T.A.G.E. said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

lol exactly. I mean... I guess the OP has never seen Clueless Gamer with Conan.

Then again the OP did say they should delay the game because the graphics aren't purty, linking an article that also said the game was a blast to play. Crackdown 3 just makes people post weird stuff.

So a comedy segment is supposed to draw the same reaction as  a livestream for gamers and comic con enthusiasts. Three cheers for logic!!

 

 

P.S. 

 

Please don't ever write a script. I doubt you even know who it was that made the video either. That dudes one of the biggest Xbox fans in the world. His gamerscore proves it.

What kind of reaction are you expecting a livestream filled with celebrities and people who don't play games to draw? Cheer harder for logic, maybe you'll start using some :) Then again like I already said, you're the guy who wants Crackdown delayed because journalists don't like the visuals, even though those same journalists gush about the gameplay. That's a failure of logic there, too.

The type of gamer who would tune in to a Comic-Con livestream to watch a game, in my opinion, is either a hardcore gamer or someone already interested in the game. And I highly doubt watching some random person who can't play games struggle around is going to sway them one way or another. Journalists playing the games on their preferred websites, gaming conferences filled with gamers and developers like E3, sure. This, no. The only feeling this would draw is the feeling Tudyk described while playing the game himself at Comic-Con with Major Nelson. Anger and a desire to snatch the controller away and play it correctly.

Conan on the other hand is a mass market mainstream talk show host and yet publishers don't mind letting him and a random celebrity basically crap on their game for a short time because it's still marketing and it's still publicity. Conan routinely trashes games, feigns boredom and sleep when the premise and lore of games are explained to him, and also mocks anyone who makes or plays the games seriously. All for comedy, of course. Idk, maybe you just don't get marketing?

You are at least right about one thing. No, I don't have a clue who made the video and don't care either. I don't follow who is the most followed YouTuber or what console they each prefer. Being a big fan of one thing or another doesn't make one immune to a bad video :)



At this rate, only a good score on metacritic might save this game.



CGI-Quality said:

In fairness, that is an absolutely crappy video (quality-wise). This one is much better:

 

For supreme viewing, however, I'll always recommend Gamersyde:

http://gamersyde.com/hqstream_crackdown_3_e3_trailer_press_conference_4k_30_-40153_en.html

 

The bigger issue lies more in expectation, rather than if the game truly looked bad. For example, the screens from 2015 gave the impression that the visuals would look superior to what we have now, but this was also before the craze of 4K happened:

Frankly, I expected a much uglier game, based on the recent comments around the net. What's there isn't that bad. Crackdown's never been about screeching-halt visuals - rather, the over-the-top action and unique artstyle. Think: Borderlands.

Thats from a Trailer..... same with bullshots, you dont always know the end result is going to end up looking like that (which it doesnt appear too).

Why not judge it based on gameplay videos instead?

 

Heres a gameplay video:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrOj1JrV-C4



Don't see what Rand is making such a big deal about. The marketing is bad so far, yes. But, that's only part of the issue. It's what people have been seeing of the game so far that's got people second-guessing it. The game has been downgraded from what was shown to us the first time, and the cloud destruction they've been hyping since the debut has yet to make a real world showing.

Honestly, when the game looks like this, is environmental destruction even a big deal anymore? This isn't really a game series worth falling on your sword over. Crackdown has its fans I suppose, but let's face it, a lot of people were exposed to it because of the Halo betas. He says he wants the game to do well, but on what merits? There's not a lot there to champion. He should hope for it to be a solid game, not just expecting everyone to rally behind it just because it's an Xbox title.



RJ_Sizzle said:
Don't see what Rand is making such a big deal about. The marketing is bad so far, yes. But, that's only part of the issue. It's what people have been seeing of the game so far that's got people second-guessing it. The game has been downgraded from what was shown to us the first time, and the cloud destruction they've been hyping since the debut has yet to make a real world showing.

Honestly, when the game looks like this, is environmental destruction even a big deal anymore? This isn't really a game series worth falling on your sword over. Crackdown has its fans I suppose, but let's face it, a lot of people were exposed to it because of the Halo betas. He says he wants the game to do well, but on what merits? There's not a lot there to champion. He should hope for it to be a solid game, not just expecting everyone to rally behind it just because it's an Xbox title.

Agreed 100%

The game just looks....bland.

A) Graphics are underwhelming, even for a Celshaded game. The city looks unispiring and boring.

B) A.I. is a mess. For a game that is releasing relatively soon, i cant think of a way that developer could fix this problem on a short amount of time.

C) Physics are horrible. This game was touted as the Next Gen in physics tech, but looking at the demo i can 100% say that even GTA 4, a game from 2008 has WAY better physics, running on +10 old hardware.

D) The Cloud is nowhere to be seen. PR guys like Major Nelson has been evading the subject like a disease. Where the hell is The Cloud?!

E) Does the game even has a plot? Ok, so they changed the main character to a more familiar face (Quantum Break anybody?) but that is not the problem. Whats the point of the game? How does Multiplayer works? There are too many unanswered questions.

The Demos could have been played by God himself, and these issues would still exist. It wasnt the best idea to give the controller to Non-Gamers, but that is the least of my worries.