I'm clearly talking about the broad spectrum of PR bullshit MS put forth regarding the cloud

So like I said, it was completely irrelevant to my post. Again, it was said that MS has been deceitful with the cloud functionality in Crackdown 3. I said they have not. You chime in saying if you add in all this other stuff unrelated to Crackdown 3 then it's deceitful. That's great, but that's called a tangent.

Maybe the person who said it will come back and shift goal posts to include MS's cloud talk as a whole, otherwise I am done bogging the thread down with this line of back and forth :)

Are you in denial?! Of course it has.. Crackdown 3 was THE posterchild they chose to use for deceitfully marketing the 'hidden' capabilities of XBox One.

Cloud computing for complex physics calculations doesn't work outside of closed environments. You'll know soon enough what we are talking about so I'll just leave it with that. 

There is nothing deceitfull about it.
They are actually using the cloud to assist with the processing of destruction in multiplayer.

nVidia has also showcased how cloud computing can assist in rendering games as well.

Microsoft was banking on this technology, they were ridiculed for it... As well as always-online DRM, having less power, Kinect... So they back tracked on all of that.
And now they have backtracked on all of that, bending to what consumers want... You don't like it? There is the saying of "Damned if you do, damned if you don't" and I think that applies here.

False.

You can perform calculations that are not bandwidth or latency sensitive on the cloud and use local resources for processing that is more time sensitive, it's a sound concept.

I still don't understand why you care so much how MS touts their own game or if it looks uber realistic or not? Who cares if MS pushes this game as one of their main "Xbox X Enhanced" titles this Fall? Would you rather this game fail because they didn't support it? It is a AAA game, so MS has to support it as much as Forza. I'm sure the amount of money put into the multiplayer justifies this. 

I would say, due to the fully destructable environments in the multiplayer, having the game run at 4kHDR at a steady framerate is quite impressive.

There is nothing deceitfull about it.
They are actually using the cloud to assist with the processing of destruction in multiplayer.

nVidia has also showcased how cloud computing can assist in rendering games as well.

Microsoft was banking on this technology, they were ridiculed for it... As well as always-online DRM, having less power, Kinect... So they back tracked on all of that.
And now they have backtracked on all of that, bending to what consumers want... You don't like it? There is the saying of "Damned if you do, damned if you don't" and I think that applies here.

False.

You can perform calculations that are not bandwidth or latency sensitive on the cloud and use local resources for processing that is more time sensitive, it's a sound concept.

Pema... their empty claim on the power of 8 X1 was what got they mocked not they trying to inovate with cloud.

Its a sound concept for data search type calculations but not for speed based replies such as games.

When the originally cloud stuff was touted three? years ago, we had massive amounts of discussions on this subject, it was mostly covered then. But having worked for many years with remote based systems (terminal services/citrix), it works in the same way, data heavy calculations can be done server side, but theres still a massive latency being sent back to the host. Perhaps they'll store the destruction state of buildings on a server for MP.... But thats not really that impressive (an ok feature but not impressive).

But above that, there will be 0 performance boosts. Certainly not the falacy of x3 boost of the XBox. Certainly wont be seeing this is multiple games. In fact where are all the games with cloud performance boosting support. There are none right now. Cloud just means a server somewhere, its the normal marketing spin that was used and now forgotten about.

The issue is and always will be that there is a massive mix of internet performance between countries, between providers, between different people in the same street. It's not a feasible system in what was orignally stated. 

I know.
With that, the cloud isn't platform exclusive... The Playstation 2 and Dreamcast could use it.

Not all calculations need to be done instantly or require inordinate amounts of bandwidth.
For example it doesn't matter if weather calculations are a few seconds late, it's not tied to any gameplay.

nVidia has covered this extensively, so there is little point in rehashing it all. But I highly suggest you look up nVidia's demosntrations on this.

As for the performance boosts, I think it's silly to pin any exact number on it, it's really upto the implementation, game engine etc'. And there has been no real precedent on what we can expect.

Actually. I'll point you in the right direction.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Na3Q1qEPpD8

I'm clearly talking about the broad spectrum of PR bullshit MS put forth regarding the cloud, as well as the CD3 specific elements. What exactly do you think you've helped me with by regurgitaing what you've already posted, and ignoring the larger issue which I addressed in my comment?

You know, that still has absolutly nothing to do with Crackdown 3.  Basically you want to rant against MS about the cloud and somehow throwing CD3 into your rant.  If the MP will use the cloud with full game destruction then your whole rant has nothing to do with CD3 since it is doing what it says it will do.  You need to get your arguments together.