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numberwang said:

So you are married and still test your beard oil on every girl around?

If you suffer from allergies or skin irritations you should look into inflammation caused by modern processed food additions like preservative.

I can attest that a good beard oil can be popular (my girlfriend really likes the smell of it). On the other hand, it doesn't seem to make my skin or beard healthier or less healthy. It's basically beard perfume :)



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Dulfite said:
Nymeria said:
I can find no hard studies that show health benefits you're describing using these products.

I'll pass on your offer and would suggest others reading to do independent research on this business and product.

Yea, if there was a billion/trillion dollar medicinal industry at risk of losing market share, I'm sure the docts who prescribe the medicine are really going to be like "hey, let's tell the truth about this thing that could seriously harm the industry we work in." That people said we go to a doctor that recommends oils and is helping my wife fight an allergy problem (effectively, btw) that 4 previous doctors could not figure out from lord knows how many blood samples and "medicines" that did absolutely nothing.

So you literally want people to just take your word for it that this will be better for their health than actual medicine? That requiring objective evidence that proves your not making shit up is somehow a bad thing? You absolutely disgust me. 

You should be ashamed of yourself.



LurkerJ said:
potato_hamster said:

Prove it. Show me a neutral third party peer reviewed study.

Eh. I don't have to. It's basic science. If you read about IBS, you will find that different patients respond to different dietary regimes. All of them are told to increase fiber intake but the problem is that there are no specifics given because nothing works for everyone. Eating lentil helps a lot but I got tired of making soup daily, so I had to look elsewhere since other vegetables and fruits didn't have a similar effect. However, the fibers in unprocessed cocoa powder is equally effective in my case. So I switched my daily cup of coffe with a cup of cocoa. Pills no more!

As for Ponaris, few drops in each nostril will create a physical barrier preventing allergens from sticking to the insides of the nasal walls preventing your body from reacting to them in the first place, it will lock the moisture in dry weather conditions. You can't use any oil on the shelf though, just the ones that are processed in a way that it would cause no problems if small amounts make it your lungs. Ponaris is prescribed by some doctors, some doctors told me to use vaseline in a similar fashion for the same basic concept I explained earlier.

Of course you have to prove it! Its fundamentally not science if you cannot prove it!

If its basic science it should be even easier to prove. Go ahead then. Put up or shut up.



"There are lots of programs which get you rewards points, help pay for the oils, and can even make money off selling the oils"

^ that sounds like a pyramid setup, those are illegal in alot of countries.


This intire post sounds like a sales ad.... which in itself wouldnt be bad, if you wherent linking a product sales site too.

This isnt just a post about how great some natrual medicine from plant oils is for you, its you trying to sell it to others, because of a Pyramid scheme.

Things like this shouldnt be allowed on this site imo.



potato_hamster said:
Dulfite said:

Yea, if there was a billion/trillion dollar medicinal industry at risk of losing market share, I'm sure the docts who prescribe the medicine are really going to be like "hey, let's tell the truth about this thing that could seriously harm the industry we work in." That people said we go to a doctor that recommends oils and is helping my wife fight an allergy problem (effectively, btw) that 4 previous doctors could not figure out from lord knows how many blood samples and "medicines" that did absolutely nothing.

So you literally want people to just take your word for it that this will be better for their health than actual medicine? That requiring objective evidence that proves your not making shit up is somehow a bad thing? You absolutely disgust me. 

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Wow all the negativity. Notice I haven't said anything hateful to you. And of course not! This is my first time doing this on social media. Normally people get free samples in person and we let people smell oils and use them and think about if they want to buy them after they see the impact. But since this is online, I don't really have the option to get people samples sadly.

And I'm not ashamed of myself because I know it works. I would absolutely be ashamed of myself if I thought this was all fake and I wouldn't be trying to sell it. I've never sold things before, never had the desire (my wife and I work full time and we are good financially, don't need any extra money). This is just about sharing. If you don't want it, that is fine, but you should insult people just because they don't agree with your perspective (one, I might add, that hasn't experienced what oils are like first hand).



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JRPGfan said:
"There are lots of programs which get you rewards points, help pay for the oils, and can even make money off selling the oils"

^ that sounds like a pyramid setup, those are illegal in alot of countries.


This intire post sounds like a sales ad.... which in itself wouldnt be bad, if you wherent linking a product sales site too.

This isnt just a post about how great some natrual medicine from plant oils is for you, its you trying to sell it to others, because of a Pyramid scheme.

Things like this shouldnt be allowed on this site imo.

It's a "MLM" which is a nicer word for pyramid scheme. The OP is literally trying to con people.



JRPGfan said:
"There are lots of programs which get you rewards points, help pay for the oils, and can even make money off selling the oils"

^ that sounds like a pyramid setup, those are illegal in alot of countries.


This intire post sounds like a sales ad.... which in itself wouldnt be bad, if you wherent linking a product sales site too.

This isnt just a post about how great some natrual medicine from plant oils is for you, its you trying to sell it to others, because of a Pyramid scheme.

Things like this shouldnt be allowed on this site imo.

Like I said multiple times, I didn't know if this sort of thing is allowed or not (never done it before), but I was mainly sharing how beneficial it is to me and the people I know. Isn't that what the internet is about; sharing information? Not like I'm forcing anyone to buy this or even talk about it.



potato_hamster said:
JRPGfan said:
"There are lots of programs which get you rewards points, help pay for the oils, and can even make money off selling the oils"

^ that sounds like a pyramid setup, those are illegal in alot of countries.


This intire post sounds like a sales ad.... which in itself wouldnt be bad, if you wherent linking a product sales site too.

This isnt just a post about how great some natrual medicine from plant oils is for you, its you trying to sell it to others, because of a Pyramid scheme.

Things like this shouldnt be allowed on this site imo.

It's a "MLM" which is a nicer word for pyramid scheme. The OP is literally trying to con people.

There you go assuming the worst and slandering me again. Can you just leave the thread if you don't want to discuss the oils instead of assuming that I'm trying to make a billion dollars? I don't care if anyone signs up or not (we aren't even making money off this yet, but we have two great jobs so don't need it). I only posted that information so people could be aware of the business side of oils too (I didn't want to just partially describe the industry).



Dulfite said:
potato_hamster said:

So you literally want people to just take your word for it that this will be better for their health than actual medicine? That requiring objective evidence that proves your not making shit up is somehow a bad thing? You absolutely disgust me. 

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Wow all the negativity. Notice I haven't said anything hateful to you. And of course not! This is my first time doing this on social media. Normally people get free samples in person and we let people smell oils and use them and think about if they want to buy them after they see the impact. But since this is online, I don't really have the option to get people samples sadly.

And I'm not ashamed of myself because I know it works. I would absolutely be ashamed of myself if I thought this was all fake and I wouldn't be trying to sell it. I've never sold things before, never had the desire (my wife and I work full time and we are good financially, don't need any extra money). This is just about sharing. If you don't want it, that is fine, but you should insult people just because they don't agree with your perspective (one, I might add, that hasn't experienced what oils are like first hand).

No you don't know how it works. Otherwise you would have the science to prove it. But you don't because you've bought into the trained professionals that are there you make up complete nonsense about why the science isn't actually necessary., and to just trust them.

As it turns out though, it is:
https://www.fda.gov/ICECI/EnforcementActions/WarningLetters/2014/ucm416023.htm

You have been conned. Now you're trying to con others. Stop it.



potato_hamster said:
JRPGfan said:
"There are lots of programs which get you rewards points, help pay for the oils, and can even make money off selling the oils"

^ that sounds like a pyramid setup, those are illegal in alot of countries.


This intire post sounds like a sales ad.... which in itself wouldnt be bad, if you wherent linking a product sales site too.

This isnt just a post about how great some natrual medicine from plant oils is for you, its you trying to sell it to others, because of a Pyramid scheme.

Things like this shouldnt be allowed on this site imo.

It's a "MLM" which is a nicer word for pyramid scheme. The OP is literally trying to con people.

I can understand if you wont to promote some natural medicines that work for common ails.

But when you start linking sales pages things arnt okay.

 

Like everyone knows stuff like "Chamomile Tea" is great for a sore throat, add in abit of honey, and it does wonders for a sore throat.

Saying things like that is okay.  Or how "aloe vera" is good for the skin, esp for stuff like sun burns.

This is more than that though, pyramid schemes and linking to sales pages... no thanks.