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I can find no hard studies that show health benefits you're describing using these products.

I'll pass on your offer and would suggest others reading to do independent research on this business and product.



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Dulfite said:

My favorite oil, as a man, is Shutran. It is called beard oil and pretty much every man who has it on is irresistable to women. Every girl I've ever heard talk about this oil pretty much dies when their man puts it on; my own wife as well. Aside from being appealing to the womenfolk, it makes your skin a lot less itchy under your beard (a problem I have a lot with my dry skin).

So you are married and still test your beard oil on every girl around?

If you suffer from allergies or skin irritations you should look into inflammation caused by modern processed food additions like preservative.



Dulfite said:
LurkerJ said:

I use Ponaris (a mixture of oils) for my nasal allergies. A life saver! It has allowed me to cut down the use of antihistamine pills and intranasal steroids spray tremendously. It's specifically helpful in keeping my nasal sinuses moist during the winter.

As for my IBS, I drink unprocessed and unsweetened hot cocoa on a daily basis, as a result, my trips to the toilet have become regular and pleasant.

And no, it's not placebo

Thank you! All these doubters lol. I was one too before I noticed the difference. Oils are one of the most valuable things we have and we have forgotten to use them! It's like the whole world eating mcdonalds burgers when you could have a lean steak; it's madness!

How does the Kool-aid taste?



Dulfite said:
OdinHades said:

No such thing here in germany, doctors are free for everybody, whoop-dee-do!

No such thing as free. You're paying for it with taxes, but sure if it's "free" then go as many times as you'd like. I personally hate having to schedule, wait in a line when I get there, only to be told something I already know and given prescription to synethetic medicine that only fights the symptoms, not the problem itself. Even if the visit is free, the rest of it isn't worth it to me. Like I said in my post I've been healthy since we started oils like 6 months ago and normally I have all kinds of seasonal allergies and colds and whatnot.

I'm in the Künstlersozialkasse, I'm covered for whatever and I only pay about 300 bucks a month for that. That plan also covers my wife and my son. I can't even remember the last time I went to see a doctor, I haven't been there in years. But I can't remember just getting some medicine fighting symptoms. About 10 years ago I had some intense pain in my right arm. Doctor sent me to a physiotherapist and told me to get Ibuprofen if I can't take the pain. But that was completely optional and I decided to just deal with the pain. After three sessions at the physiotherapist all pain was gone for good. No need to constantly dip oil onto my arms or something. No need for anything. But yeah, maybe doctors in germany are better than in the US? Hell if I know. =P

I mean if it helps you, great, enjoy it and all. But please don't try to advertise it and especially not in combination with a certain company. That's just wrong. 



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crissindahouse said:

Btw, to be proud that you managed to get other people already buying it as well to get your stuff paid by them through these links is nice for you, I just hope you aren't friends with them and let them believe everyone can get his money back with this system and those will tell their friends also the same.

Pyramid schemes only work for the first people, not for everyone since there will be obviously the point where so many are involved that finding new people will get harder every time until most will just pay without getting anything back.

Maybe you are the lucky one to be still early in the game to convince other people to pay a shitload of money for some oils to let you get your money back. But if you would be my real life friend trying to pull me in a pyramid scheme we wouldn't be friends anymore,

(Edit: That's not about if the oil is working or not, just about telling people how they get their money back or can make a lot of money with it) 

Man, you must have been burned bad by something to be this sour. I promise you, if this was like that I wouldn't be doing this. I'd just use the oils and be done with it. The only people that don't make back what they spend in a month are the ones that don't want to build the business up. It really isn't difficult to get it all covered at all (we aren't there yet as we just started the business end of it a few days ago, but we already have some). This isn't about screwing people over. It's about spreading knowledge that people can spend the same amount of money on healthy things instead of on unhealthy things. Even if you don't make any profit off it, you can easily overcome the expenses by not having to buy other things that you would otherwise need. We save a ton of money doing this!



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Cobretti2 said:
Thing is when I get sick I just let it run its course and 9/10 times don't even need to see a doctor. Let the body build the fight to live. If you die you die, mean it was your time to go.

I have always done that and I'm usually miserable for 2 weeks going through tissue boxes like crap through a goose lol



Nymeria said:
I can find no hard studies that show health benefits you're describing using these products.

I'll pass on your offer and would suggest others reading to do independent research on this business and product.

Yea, if there was a billion/trillion dollar medicinal industry at risk of losing market share, I'm sure the docts who prescribe the medicine are really going to be like "hey, let's tell the truth about this thing that could seriously harm the industry we work in." That people said we go to a doctor that recommends oils and is helping my wife fight an allergy problem (effectively, btw) that 4 previous doctors could not figure out from lord knows how many blood samples and "medicines" that did absolutely nothing.



numberwang said:
Dulfite said:

My favorite oil, as a man, is Shutran. It is called beard oil and pretty much every man who has it on is irresistable to women. Every girl I've ever heard talk about this oil pretty much dies when their man puts it on; my own wife as well. Aside from being appealing to the womenfolk, it makes your skin a lot less itchy under your beard (a problem I have a lot with my dry skin).

So you are married and still test your beard oil on every girl around?

If you suffer from allergies or skin irritations you should look into inflammation caused by modern processed food additions like preservative.

Wow really? Of course not. But we know a lot of women that have guys using this and my wife tells me what these girls says about how much they like it. Can't believe you would just assume something like that?

And I totally agree on the food thing, we have adjusted that a lot as well. My wife, for example, we found out a few months ago is now allergic to egg, so we had to get rid of that in everything.



potato_hamster said:
LurkerJ said:

I use Ponaris (a mixture of oils) for my nasal allergies. A life saver! It has allowed me to cut down the use of antihistamine pills and intranasal steroids spray tremendously. It's specifically helpful in keeping my nasal sinuses moist during the winter.

As for my IBS, I drink unprocessed and unsweetened hot cocoa on a daily basis, as a result, my trips to the toilet have become regular and pleasant.

And no, it's not placebo

Prove it. Show me a neutral third party peer reviewed study.

Eh. I don't have to. It's basic science. If you read about IBS, you will find that different patients respond to different dietary regimes. All of them are told to increase fiber intake but the problem is that there are no specifics given because nothing works for everyone. Eating lentil helps a lot but I got tired of making soup daily, so I had to look elsewhere since other vegetables and fruits didn't have a similar effect. However, the fibers in unprocessed cocoa powder is equally effective in my case. So I switched my daily cup of coffe with a cup of cocoa. Pills no more!

As for Ponaris, few drops in each nostril will create a physical barrier preventing allergens from sticking to the insides of the nasal walls preventing your body from reacting to them in the first place, it will lock the moisture in dry weather conditions. You can't use any oil on the shelf though, just the ones that are processed in a way that it would cause no problems if small amounts make it your lungs. Ponaris is prescribed by some doctors, and other doctors told me to use vaseline in a similar fashion for the same basic concept I explained earlier. It's just not good to load your body with allergy pills and cortisol sprays.



OdinHades said:
Dulfite said:

No such thing as free. You're paying for it with taxes, but sure if it's "free" then go as many times as you'd like. I personally hate having to schedule, wait in a line when I get there, only to be told something I already know and given prescription to synethetic medicine that only fights the symptoms, not the problem itself. Even if the visit is free, the rest of it isn't worth it to me. Like I said in my post I've been healthy since we started oils like 6 months ago and normally I have all kinds of seasonal allergies and colds and whatnot.

I'm in the Künstlersozialkasse, I'm covered for whatever and I only pay about 300 bucks a month for that. That plan also covers my wife and my son. I can't even remember the last time I went to see a doctor, I haven't been there in years. But I can't remember just getting some medicine fighting symptoms. About 10 years ago I had some intense pain in my right arm. Doctor sent me to a physiotherapist and told me to get Ibuprofen if I can't take the pain. But that was completely optional and I decided to just deal with the pain. After three sessions at the physiotherapist all pain was gone for good. No need to constantly dip oil onto my arms or something. No need for anything. But yeah, maybe doctors in germany are better than in the US? Hell if I know. =P

I mean if it helps you, great, enjoy it and all. But please don't try to advertise it and especially not in combination with a certain company. That's just wrong. 

1. The oils aren't a constant drip lol. You do it once and it's good until you screw it up again. Not like a drug addiction or anything. we haven't gone through most of our bottles yet from our starter kit like 6 months ago.

2. I'm not advertising. I shared my story and part of my story is awknowledging that it is important to get 100% pure oils, not anything less and especially not store bought 5% that is worthless. YL is the only one I've heard of that does that in America; if there are others then cool, the more the merrier!