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SegataSanshiro said:
deskpro2k3 said:

 

It is very interesting that you brought up Axanar, I know some other fans that disapproves of Axanar with the same criticisms that you and others here have against Discovery lol.

I just don't get it. lmao

Almost every ST fan I have seen and talke dto were excited for Axanar because we hoped Enterprise would be. Axanar got trek,got the canon got the right actors. Just about every Trek fan I have seen and talked to has hated STD (HA!) because it seems more of the same JJ did. I mean already they messed it up bring Prime with it being 10 years before Kirk. It screws with the timeline and the uniforms are wrong. They are all wearing the Delta. The Delta didn't become the unified symbol until after TOS.

 

Curious, so what do you have to say about the Axanar criticisms in this thread here http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=189063&page=1



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deskpro2k3 said:
SegataSanshiro said:

Almost every ST fan I have seen and talke dto were excited for Axanar because we hoped Enterprise would be. Axanar got trek,got the canon got the right actors. Just about every Trek fan I have seen and talked to has hated STD (HA!) because it seems more of the same JJ did. I mean already they messed it up bring Prime with it being 10 years before Kirk. It screws with the timeline and the uniforms are wrong. They are all wearing the Delta. The Delta didn't become the unified symbol until after TOS.

 

Curious, so what do you have to say about the Axanar criticisms in this thread here http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=189063&page=1

VGchartz is not the place I go to for Star Trek fandom esp looking at this thread. I been a ST fan longer than some people hear been alive.



SegataSanshiro said:
deskpro2k3 said:

 

Curious, so what do you have to say about the Axanar criticisms in this thread here http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=189063&page=1

VGchartz is not the place I go to for Star Trek fandom esp looking at this thread. I been a ST fan longer than some people hear been alive.

ok so you didn't answer the question, regardless the point I'm making is that STD, and Axanar is telling a story based on past events before Kirk. Both are being called JJ'ish/Star Wars'ish, and no matter what side people may be on, they're missing the bigger picture here; it is a period of Star Trek bloodiest past, and as a fan I can't wait to see them.

We don't know how the diplomacy, thought provoking, and the politics is like in STD yet, please look forward to it



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I want Star trek in the 25th century in all honesty. Tired of going backwards but for what it was Axanar looked better.
Watching Star Trek Discovery will give you STD. You can have war in ST but you still need to retain the DNA of Star Trek. It's not there. They made generic sci fi. They already screwed up canon frm the uniforms to the time to the klingons to even the batleth the Klingons use..but but prequel and ancient klingons. We have seen the first Klingon in Voyager and seen the first batleth in TNG. We know when this war takes place and this show screwed that up. We know the Delta was only used for the Enterprise crew and at this point in time Pike is the captain. The ship is old enough where Pike is the second Captain for the Enterprise. April is the first.



SegataSanshiro said:
I want Star trek in the 25th century in all honesty. Tired of going backwards but for what it was Axanar looked better.
Watching Star Trek Discovery will give you STD. You can have war in ST but you still need to retain the DNA of Star Trek. It's not there. They made generic sci fi. They already screwed up canon frm the uniforms to the time to the klingons to even the batleth the Klingons use..but but prequel and ancient klingons. We have seen the first Klingon in Voyager and seen the first batleth in TNG. We know when this war takes place and this show screwed that up. We know the Delta was only used for the Enterprise crew and at this point in time Pike is the captain. The ship is old enough where Pike is the second Captain for the Enterprise. April is the first.

 

Uniforms changes a lot in Star Trek, so I really don't think that's a strong point to make.

The ones from STD looks a lot like the Enterprise.

 

 

 

 



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deskpro2k3 said:
SegataSanshiro said:
I want Star trek in the 25th century in all honesty. Tired of going backwards but for what it was Axanar looked better.
Watching Star Trek Discovery will give you STD. You can have war in ST but you still need to retain the DNA of Star Trek. It's not there. They made generic sci fi. They already screwed up canon frm the uniforms to the time to the klingons to even the batleth the Klingons use..but but prequel and ancient klingons. We have seen the first Klingon in Voyager and seen the first batleth in TNG. We know when this war takes place and this show screwed that up. We know the Delta was only used for the Enterprise crew and at this point in time Pike is the captain. The ship is old enough where Pike is the second Captain for the Enterprise. April is the first.

 

Uniforms changes a lot in Star Trek, so I really don't think that's a strong point to make.

 

 

You post posted my point. 2254 they were the Starfleet uniform until the second Pilot of TOS. STD is 2255. Episode 2 of TOS they switched over. Also you still yet to dispute the Delta which again only Enterprise used during this era. The Klingons and the Batleth. Also that the timeline doesn't match.



SegataSanshiro said:

You post posted my point. 2254 they were the Starfleet uniform until the second Pilot of TOS. STD is 2255. Episode 2 of TOS they switched over. Also you still yet to dispute the Delta which again only Enterprise used during this era. The Klingons and the Batleth. Also that the timeline doesn't match.

 

My point is, 2150s uniforms and Discovery is very similar, STD is 10 years before Kirk. And dude, Klingons used all kinds of bladed weapons, tradional and non-tradional, so not all Bat'Leth looks the same.

 

 

 

Here is some Klingons

 

For all your other inquiries, please look forward to it!



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deskpro2k3 said:
SegataSanshiro said:

You post posted my point. 2254 they were the Starfleet uniform until the second Pilot of TOS. STD is 2255. Episode 2 of TOS they switched over. Also you still yet to dispute the Delta which again only Enterprise used during this era. The Klingons and the Batleth. Also that the timeline doesn't match.

 

My point is, 2150s uniforms and Discovery is very similar, STD is 10 years before Kirk. And dude, Klingons used all kinds of bladed weapons, tradional and non-tradional, so not all Bat'Leth looks the same.

 

 

 

Here is some Klingons

 

For all your other inquiries, please look forward to it!

God it's like you have no idea about anything Star Trek and just google. Yes we know it's 10 years before than that's the fucking problem that fucks with the prime universe. That's where they fucked it up and the last Batleth isn't a Batleth it's a broken bow. All the Batleth's have a similar look and only exist because of Kayless. Last pic you posted of a klingon is moot because it's Kelvin. First pic has an explanation in canon shown in Enterprise. Middle pic is Kayless and he was made to look somewhat disttinct but he still looks like a Klingon. STD made the back of their heads pointy. That makes no damn sense because we also know the Klingon atatomy..we know what their skeleton looks like and they do not have pointy heads. It's clear your not a fan because you don't know jack about Star trek..you think google will help you and it's a waste of time to spend any more time with a non fan or at least a very clueless one on it's universe & history.



SegataSanshiro said:
deskpro2k3 said:

 

My point is, 2150s uniforms and Discovery is very similar, STD is 10 years before Kirk. And dude, Klingons used all kinds of bladed weapons, tradional and non-tradional, so not all Bat'Leth looks the same.

 

 

 

Here is some Klingons

 

For all your other inquiries, please look forward to it!

God it's like you have no idea about anything Star Trek and just google. Yes we know it's 10 years before than that's the fucking problem that fucks with the prime universe. That's where they fucked it up and the last Batleth isn't a Batleth it's a broken bow. All the Batleth's have a similar look and only exist because of Kayless. Last pic you posted of a klingon is moot because it's Kelvin. First pic has an explanation in canon shown in Enterprise. Middle pic is Kayless and he was made to look somewhat disttinct but he still looks like a Klingon. STD made the back of their heads pointy. That makes no damn sense because we also know the Klingon atatomy..we know what their skeleton looks like and they do not have pointy heads.

 

Man your excuses are entertaining lol. I assume you never watched Star Trek Enterprise?

All tradional batleth look the same, non-tradional doesn't.

So here is some STD Klingons. Not all of them have "pointy back-head"

 

Interestingly, I found this at Polygon. https://www.polygon.com/2017/5/18/15658904/star-trek-discovery-klingon

These ancient Klingons belonged to a group of alienated people who encountered humans on the edge of Federation space. In 2154, a group of Klingons managed to get their hands on Human Augments, a genetic material they used to try and improve their own genetic makeup. While this helped the Klingons become stronger and more intelligent, it also degraded their physical makeup. When one of the affected Klingons came down with a Levodian flu, the combination of the sickness and the genetic differences created an airborne, fatal plague that spread from world to world. This is all confirmed in Star Trek: Enterprise, one of the Star Trek series that happens to pre-date the Original Series.

It was in the early stages of this plague that these Klingons lost the ridges on their foreheads. It was only with the help of the Enterprise’s Dr. Phlox that a cure for the plague was discovered. Star Trek: The Original Series takes place in 2364, but again, Star Trek: Enterprise takes place before that. Considering Discovery takes place before the events of the original series, which focused on Captain James T. Kirk and his crew aboard the Enterprise, and just after Star Trek: Enterprise, the timeline allows the theory to potentially come to fruition.

The only counterargument is that the Klingons in the original series most likened humans. We know that because of the genetic mutation, they began to look more normal before a cure was found. If this is the storyline that CBS wants to take Discovery in, that will need to be addressed as these Klingons aren’t as similar to humans as their later counterparts.

 

Levodian flu  http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Levodian_flu

 

So I guess that takes care of that.



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It's very disappointing that Discovery is yet again a prequel.