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A7XRayDog247 said:
Couldn't their move to the smartphone market be considered another pillar of business for them? That being said I sincerely hope that the 3DS wasn't the last Nintendo handheld.

That Bloomberg is sugesting. Don't worry, you will have Switch Mini/Pocket. ;)



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Aeolus451 said:
Miyamotoo said:

Beacuse Switch is a hybrid of home console and handheld. I also mentioned Wii.

That makes no sense. 

You brought up 3rd party support on handhelds to counter what I said about lack of 3rd party support on their home consoles being one of the main reasons why they don't do well. 

Quoted from my post.

"The kind of games they were focused on first party wise and not having 3rd party support were the main reasons why their home consoles didn't do that well most of the time."

Quoted from your response to what I quoted from myself.

"Wii and DS didn't really had strong 3rd party support, 3DS also, now Switch doesn't have strong 3rd party support also and its doing great."

 

That's not really a counter to what i said about lack of 3rd party support hurting most of the nintendo home consoles.

At first I missed you wrote home consoles, and I brought Wii, so I dont see any problem.



Miyamotoo said:
Aeolus451 said:

That makes no sense. 

You brought up 3rd party support on handhelds to counter what I said about lack of 3rd party support on their home consoles being one of the main reasons why they don't do well. 

Quoted from my post.

"The kind of games they were focused on first party wise and not having 3rd party support were the main reasons why their home consoles didn't do that well most of the time."

Quoted from your response to what I quoted from myself.

"Wii and DS didn't really had strong 3rd party support, 3DS also, now Switch doesn't have strong 3rd party support also and its doing great."

 

That's not really a counter to what i said about lack of 3rd party support hurting most of the nintendo home consoles.

At first I missed you wrote home consoles, and I brought Wii, so I dont see any problem.

You brought wii and a bunch handhelds into it. If you missed then it missed it. Oh well. My point still stands though.



Lafiel said:

personally I think Nintendo will release a "Switch" that's strictly portable, only operates at portable specs and has no cradle/TV connection in about 2 years time, but ofcourse that's not a separate system, but a 2nd device for the same ecosystem

But if it has the same hardware in graphics capabilities, most would consider it still in the Switch family of systems (just like the 3ds had 3ds, 3ds XL, 2ds, New 2ds XL, New 3ds, and New 3ds XL).



Aeolus451 said:
Miyamotoo said:

At first I missed you wrote home consoles, and I brought Wii, so I dont see any problem.

You brought wii and a bunch handhelds into it. If you missed then it missed it. Oh well. My point still stands though.

Yes your point still stand about point that most Nintendo home consoles that didnt sold well didnt had good 3rd party support, but Wii sold great even without strong 3rd party support, and GC sold much worse than Wii that maybe had even stronger 3rd party support. In any case, Switch is hybrid, it's not only home console and its not only handheld, its mouth, so your point don't apple on Switch.



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tl;dl is:
The Switch could sell fewer units than a separate handheld and console combined but maybe it could also sell more"

Enlightening article. I'm still firmly on the "fewer" side though.



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Pemalite said:
Lafiel said:

personally I think Nintendo will release a "Switch" that's strictly portable, only operates at portable specs and has no cradle/TV connection in about 2 years time, but ofcourse that's not a separate system, but a 2nd device for the same ecosystem

I hope they take it in a the opposite direction too and make a fixed low-cost home console at a cheaper price by ditching the Joycons, Screen, Battery, Dock etc'.
I would jump on that.

I think both are possible. And, as for the extra portable switch, it doesn't even need to completely ditch home play. It could simply not come with a cradle, and not have detachable joycons. If you later wanted to use it for home play, you could buy a separate cradle, and separate controllers.

I guess it wouldn't really be possible for the cheaper, home only version to also be taken on the road.



Miyamotoo said:
Aeolus451 said:

You brought wii and a bunch handhelds into it. If you missed then it missed it. Oh well. My point still stands though.

Yes your point still stand about point that most Nintendo home consoles that didnt sold well didnt had good 3rd party support, but Wii sold great even without strong 3rd party support, and GC sold much worse than Wii that maybe had even stronger 3rd party support. In any case, Switch is hybrid, it's not only home console and its not only handheld, its mouth, so your point don't apple on Switch.

I wasn't trying to apply my point to ns but rather that nintendo should choose handhelds over consoles. Also the wii is more of a exception to the rule rather than a contradiction of the norm.



This would be the smartest move by Nintendo if they really want Switch to remain successful, especially seeing as the third party support is inevitably going to hit Wii U levels.



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Aeolus451 said:
Mnementh said:

Well, guess what: Switch basically is a handheld device. Yes, it also connects to TV, but the main design is for handheld. That it also connects to TV makes sense, if you give up on home console.

Doesn't that make the switch being called a "hybrid" a joke if we went along with that line of thinking?

Dunno, don't care. All I know is, that the Switch has design for a handheld, not for a home console. It has some additional features, that make it feasible to use as stationary console, but it obviously wasn't the first thought. Take the controller for instance: the standard controller is removable from the handheld, to make them usable for home console use, but even with that thing it is not a great home console controller. There is an additional pro controller though, but that is not part of the standard package. Well, maybe we could call that hybrid, as this is actually true, that some of these design decisions (removable controller) were not needed for only handheld use. But while all design decisions are fine with a handheld console, some are only mediocre if we look at it from home console usage. So, I go with hybrid or handheld for Switch, can't really draw a line between them and I don't think it is really necessary.

You criticized the poster before for bringing up unified game development as reason for Switch and said if that is the reason they could've gone with handheld-route. As I see it, the Switch clearly targets the handheld market and only halfheartedly goes after home console market too. So yes, Nintendo basically did what you jokingly said they would've.



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