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Forums - Gaming Discussion - Zelda BOTW is the best-selling console game of the year despite a price of > $300

Lawlight said:
Mnementh said:

Well, I'm saying that to play Zelda you need Switch. And you only buy a Switch, if you want to play Zelda (some exceptions aside). So basically yeah, you have to buy a Switch to play Zelda. Except you ot for the WiiU-version, which obviously not so many people do.

Or you know... play it on the WiiU.

Well, clearly an option, that's why I didn't say $400. Because some buy it on WiiU, but apparently the minority.



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Sprash said:
Horizon sold more digital though

Which I adressed in the OP.



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Teeqoz said:
The fact that BOTW is on the Wii U already blows a massive hole in your theory.

We have numbers for sales on WiiU and Switch, and as only the minority buys it for Switch I'm still right. That's the reason though I said $300 and not $400, because the average.



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Mar1217 said:
Your theory is bogus. I do have a Switch, but I don't own Botw on it.

According to VGC-forum-posters you then have nothing to play and use the Switch as letterweight, as Zelda has no competition.



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People didn't buy the switch just for Zelda, the idea of people spending $300 on a game that you're trying to push is ridiculous. People are investing their money in a platform that will bring them many amazing experiences across the years.

Unless you're trying to say Zelda would've sold the same if Nintendo came out and said 'We built the switch for Zelda and only for zelda, we will not be releasing any games in future, this is a BoTW machine'.



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Mnementh said:
Teeqoz said:
The fact that BOTW is on the Wii U already blows a massive hole in your theory.

We have numbers for sales on WiiU and Switch, and as only the minority buys it for Switch I'm still right. That's the reason though I said $300 and not $400, because the average.

You're gonna have to PM me about your seriousness in this thread for me to figure out wether or not it's worth my time to reply



RolStoppable said:
Teeqoz said:

The logic in this thread is just as lacking as in the troll threads he may or may not be parodying, so he doesn't really "connect the dots". Wether his motivation differs from a regular troll creating a bad thread doesn't really matter when the result is the same.

I'll give you a rundown.

1. A thread or post says that Zelda has great sales.

2. Detractor jumps in to say that sales aren't impressive because Zelda is the only game worth buying on Switch.

3. If Zelda is the only game worth buying, it means that people are paying $360 to play this one specific game. This then actually means that Zelda's sales are even more impressive than before the detractor jumped in. That's why it's trolling that bites people in their ass.

The result of trolling and trolling the trolls is only the same if you don't want to consider the big picture. A thread like this is thought-provoking if you take everything into account. One of the questions that can be asked is why point 2 above is consistently condoned by the mod team. The important point here is not that anyone who voices an unreasonable thought should be moderated immediately, but how can it be that the same person can do it again and again and again. And once you get to the core of the issue, there's only one simple question:

How come that Lawlight is still allowed to post on VGC?

Stupidity isn't a bannable offense on VGC.



Mar1217 said:
Teeqoz said:

Stupidity isn't a bannable offense on VGC.

That is until Rol becomes the next moderator ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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Mnementh said:
Aeolus451 said:
(1) Not everyone who bought a switch this year, bought it for zelda otherwise the sales for both this year would match. (2) Also, adding in the cost of the console doesn't mean that zelda sold the most copies this year compared to games with higher sales this year. (3) I get that you like zelda but you can't change facts to fluff up the sales of your favored game. I'm sure zelda will sell very well so just let it's own sales numbers speak for itself.

(1) According to VGC-forums Zelda has no competition, so if there are no games outside Zelda you purchase the console for Zelda.

(2) Well, but it did sold the most copies, excluding PC which isn't tracked well here. If we include PC, probably For Honor, Ghost Recon and Biohazard sold more, but VGC has no good numbers for PC. That's why I wrote console game and explained it in the OP.

(3) But I didn't change any facts. Which facts should I have changed? You confuse me. Be more concrete, if you know I got something wrong you should point out the correction instead of being nebulous as you are.

(1) Wrong. According to vgchartz...

 Global  USA  Europe  Japan 

Global Top Sellers 03rd June 2017

1 PS4 Tekken 7 433,359

2 NS Mario Kart 8 Deluxe 132,617

3 XOne Tekken 7 91,255

4 PS4 Injustice 2 87,969

5 NS The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 85,061

6 PS4 Overwatch 72,937

7 3DS Pokemon Sun/Moon 56,576

8 PS4 Grand Theft Auto V 53,170

9 PS4 Horizon: Zero Dawn 51,997

10 NS Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers 44,160

There's other ns games on that list besides zelda. Again, if people were really buying ns just for zelda, their sales would be match or be really close

 

(2) Horizon and zelda are very close in sales this year according to this site so it's very arguable on which one is selling better. Also as you mentioned pc, we don't really have any numbers from that so it's difficult to be accurate in best selling statements. I still don't see the point in trying to fluff up it's numbers when it's doing well.

(3) Just that firt bit about zelda being the reason people are buying ns is not factual and the foundation of your op is illogical.



Aeolus451 said:
Mnementh said:

(1) According to VGC-forums Zelda has no competition, so if there are no games outside Zelda you purchase the console for Zelda.

(2) Well, but it did sold the most copies, excluding PC which isn't tracked well here. If we include PC, probably For Honor, Ghost Recon and Biohazard sold more, but VGC has no good numbers for PC. That's why I wrote console game and explained it in the OP.

(3) But I didn't change any facts. Which facts should I have changed? You confuse me. Be more concrete, if you know I got something wrong you should point out the correction instead of being nebulous as you are.

(1) Wrong. According to vgchartz...

 Global  USA  Europe  Japan 

Global Top Sellers 03rd June 2017

1 PS4 Tekken 7 433,359

2 NS Mario Kart 8 Deluxe 132,617

3 XOne Tekken 7 91,255

4 PS4 Injustice 2 87,969

5 NS The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 85,061

6 PS4 Overwatch 72,937

7 3DS Pokemon Sun/Moon 56,576

8 PS4 Grand Theft Auto V 53,170

9 PS4 Horizon: Zero Dawn 51,997

10 NS Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers 44,160

There's other ns games on that list besides zelda. Again, if people were really buying ns just for zelda, their sales would be match or be really close

 

(2) Horizon and zelda are very close in sales this year according to this site so it's very arguable on which one is selling better. Also as you mentioned pc, we don't really have any numbers from that so it's difficult to be accurate in best selling statements. I still don't see the point in trying to fluff up it's numbers when it's doing well.

(3) Just that firt bit about zelda being the reason people are buying ns is not factual and the foundation of your op is illogical.

(1) If you read again what I wrote please: "According to VGC-forums"

(2) You forget that Zelda is on WiiU too, so it isn't close in comparison to Horizon. As I explained in the OP. And yes, I excluded PC, sorry, the data is too bad to include it. But I don't fluff any numbers, I stated all this in the OP.

(3) Well, say that to a lot of VGC-forum-posters. Because I only took the common opinion in VGC-forums, that no games are on Switch besides Zelda. So if you think that is untrue (seemingly as you post as answer to 1), you should go and change the VGC-forum-mainstream-opinion.



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