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THE DRAGON AND THE WOLF RATING

10 83 35.78%
 
9 61 26.29%
 
8 38 16.38%
 
7 23 9.91%
 
6 10 4.31%
 
5 4 1.72%
 
4 1 0.43%
 
3 1 0.43%
 
2 1 0.43%
 
1 10 4.31%
 
Total:232
Kylar18 on 20 August 2017
morenoingrato said:
ClassicGamingWizzz said:

Dialogue was abysmal ? WTF xD

Dialogue was amazing, that Tormund/ The hound , Tormund/ Gendry, Jon and Beric, Jon and Mormont.

Not Jon plan, more like Tyrion plan, blame him xD

Arya executed for what ? Remember her vs the waif ? She is not dumb.

 

Only thing is kinda bad was why the NIght king aimed at vyserion first instead of fucking drogon, need to see the producers talking about this, maybe they will explain.

And Jon and Danny romance now feels great, i disliked the idea before but now i am on board xD

 

I don't mean to sound like a book elitist, but I felt the world of a GoT always had some air of realism and grounded plot to it, that even previous seasons respected.

I was never on board with the All Star Team, because it felt like a forced reunion of random characters.

But I just can't get see the Hound talking about Brienne with Thormund. It really came out of nowhere and it was not an organic way of talking.

Or Gendry talking with the Brotherhood. It's been too long and I felt in a more real breathing world, Gendry moved on, and the encounter didn't happen. And his role North of the Wall was basically fan service. Guess they needed a named character to return to the wall.

Jon's thing with Ser Jorah was also a point of issue with me. Why not give the sword to the actual household head Lady (Lyanna Mormont), someone that supported him and his House since the start? That is what Edward Stark did after he defeated Arthur Dayne. He returned his sword to his wife for House Dayne.

I also dislike the fact that all the characters had huge plot armors. Seeing a bunch of nameless guys just die again and again was kinda funny.

Was it Tyrion's plan? Oh well. I can't say this has been Tyrion's Season anyway.

I understand that they are being manipulated by Littlefinger and he is playing with fire with someone as unstable as Arya, but damn. Her resentments run deep and have not banished at all. She is just as childish as years ago, but now can kill.

Sansa has barely shown any hint that she would betray Jon, yet Arya's paranoia is insane. She is on the brink of collapsing the North alliance and bringing ruin to Winterfell. I think that's unlikely at this stage, but that doesn't mean she isn't being stupid.

I guess my comment was meant to be "The better thing for the North would be if Arya is executed".

Regardless, I liked the second half of the episode quite a bit, I just felt the journey to that frozen island felt "unlikely" and forced. Could have been handled better and with less characters.

These two things really bothered me in this episode. 

A few of the choices that were made with this episode just confused me.

It felt like to me that the writers knew how the series is going to end, but they just wanted to make this an exciting episode, which it was. 



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DarthMetalliCube on 21 August 2017

I'm really at a loss as far as rating this latest episode. So dumb in many ways, but incredibly awesome in others.. I guess I'd settle at an 8 out of 10.

Positives
- Amazing battle scenes
- Interesting and humorous dialogue between the "magnificent 7"
- freaking ice dragon!

Negatives
- WTF is going on with Arya?
- More dumb teleportation all over Westeros
- Many minor plot details that make little sense - ie - why does the Night King throw his spear at Viscerys and not Drogon? Why the hell does the Hound provoke the Walkers by throwing rocks? How does Gendry run to the wall, send a raven, get a message to Dany, who is able to save the guys north of the wall in such a short time?
- Lack of deaths to make things more intense outside of Thoros, Viscerys, and random dudes traveling with the 7 heroes.

The show runners clearly either - are rushing the plot to get to the end of the show, don't have near the talent of George R.R Martin, or both.. But they sure do know how to provide a visual spectacle at least. That's really the only reason I'm still watching, in addition to wanting to see where everything goes, as I'm so invested in all of the characters at this point, I can't look away.



 

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LurkerJ on 21 August 2017

I dunno what Petyr Baelish and Varys fates are, but damn, their characters have been assassinated, they can both die any moment and no one would miss them.

What does Varys do anymore? Where are his birds? How come he failed to see anything coming? How can one name him a SPIDER anymore?

Petyr has gone from manipulating god damn kingdoms to trolling Arya and Sansa. If he ends being killed in the north it will be because the writers have decided to make him the dumbest character on the show.


I get the need to make the show EPIC and fast-pace but major characters are suffering, forget being faithful to the books, the writers are not being faithful to their own god damn TV show.

Let's talk about Euron. He has no character development whatsoever... hey guys, here is another psychopath to replace Ramsy but without the motives and the background story.

What's Euron motive? MARRYING THE MOST BEAUTIFUL WOMAN, that's all what we got. All he does is showing up in unexpected places to ruin Tyrion's plans while being a psycho.

The direction of the show is inexcusable at this point. We could've had 10 episodes to flush out the story and have a fast paced epic season at the same time.

Develop old characters like Gendry and Randyll Tarly and his family some more. Introduce new characters the proper way, especially Euron, he could've represented both, Victorian and Euron Greyjoy, they had plenty of materials to derive from the books (the writers combined characters before into one and it worked well so far), but nope, let's sexualize the strong and wise Yara for I dunno how many consecutive scenes and make the Grejoys as uninteresting as possible

Meh.

I always thought the show handled many things way better than the books, the series started showing weakness during the 5th and 6th season but I still enjoyed them without complaining. This season, however, is so epic and fun to watch yet I end up complaining after every episode. I dunno. I am conflicted and not happy



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Barkley on 21 August 2017

Honestly this is the first episode where the rushing to the end thing hit me really hard.

I wanted this season to be focused on a war between Daenerys and Cersei, I wanted large battles between human army's, I'm not ready for the series to go full white-walker focused.

I've loved this season so far, but the last episodes focus on the dead really bothered me, and then you realise how many other characters have been neglected by this rush to the final battle between the living and the dead.

What the hell happened to grey-worm and the rest of the unsullied and Euron Greyjoy.

What happened to Yara Greyjoy? She was paraded through kings landing and then promptly disappeared.

Theon has been completely neglected, since his sister has been taken in episode 1 we've had two brief scenes in the next 5 episodes. The one where he was fished onto the ship "If you tried you wouldn't be here." and then the very brief scene with Jon Snow, which was more focused on Jon being angry to see him then what was actually going on with Theon'.

They needed to keep it at 10 episodes, they've rushed through so much and neglected so many characters and story lines to where if it's not directly around the main (Daenerys, Jon, Starks, Lannisters) we have no idea what the hell is going on.

This was my favourite season, but episode 6 may have changed that, we'll see how it ends but my expectations are lowered.

 

The show is at it's strongest showing conflict between complex characters scrambling for power, not a black and white, living vs dead, good vs evil, generic threat. The white walkers have no personality.



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Soundwave on 21 August 2017

I laughed so hard when the Hound threw that rock at the zombie dude.

The show is getting a lot more predictable though. 



TallSilhouette on 21 August 2017
LurkerJ said:

I dunno what Petyr Baelish and Varys fates are, but damn, their characters have been assassinated, they can both die any moment and no one would miss them.

What does Varys do anymore? Where are his birds? How come he failed to see anything coming? How can one name him a SPIDER anymore?

Petyr has gone from manipulating god damn kingdoms to trolling Arya and Sansa. If he ends being killed in the north it will be because the writers have decided to make him the dumbest character on the show.

I get the need to make the show EPIC and fast-pace but major characters are suffering, forget being faithful to the books, the writers are not being faithful to their own god damn TV show.

Let's talk about Euron. He has no character development whatsoever... hey guys, here is another psychopath to replace Ramsy but without the motives and the background story.

What's Euron motive? MARRYING THE MOST BEAUTIFUL WOMAN, that's all what we got. All he does is showing up in unexpected places to ruin Tyrion's plans while being a psycho.

The direction of the show is inexcusable at this point. We could've had 10 episodes to flush out the story and have a fast paced epic season at the same time.

Develop old characters like Gendry and Randyll Tarly and his family some more. Introduce new characters the proper way, especially Euron, he could've represented both, Victorian and Euron Greyjoy, they had plenty of materials to derive from the books (the writers combined characters before into one and it worked well so far), but nope, let's sexualize the strong and wise Yara for I dunno how many consecutive scenes and make the Grejoys as uninteresting as possible

Meh.

I always thought the show handled many things way better than the books, the series started showing weakness during the 5th and 6th season but I still enjoyed them without complaining. This season, however, is so epic and fun to watch yet I end up complaining after every episode. I dunno. I am conflicted and not happy

Very much this. So sad what's become of some of the show's best characters (Varys and Petyr's rivalry being one of my favorites). I wouldn't call this season very epic, though. This was easily the weakest season climax of the series and nothing in my mind has justified the shorter run. Amazing as they are, the dragons can't be eating up THAT much of the budget, can they?



freebs2 on 21 August 2017

Episode 6 was great. Unfortunately it's true this season has lost some of the plot logic and events feel too rushed. But at this point it's inevitable if they don't want to drag the series for other 3 seasons. Imo they have already procrastinated too much during season 4 and 5.



Moren on 21 August 2017

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/aug/21/game-of-thrones-hbo-hackers-threaten-leak-of-season-finale?CMP=fb_gu

I would bite if it's on HD. No doubt. Heck, I've been watching the episodes on HBO anyway for those that have been leaked.

I just can't wait lol.



JakDaSnack on 21 August 2017

Phenomenal performances by Emilia Clarke and Kit Harrington. This is probably my favorite episode of the season.



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