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Not sure why people believe this dude........guy lies c9nstantly on twitter and attacks people for no reason



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freebs2 said:
Ljink96 said:

Yup. Generations are over technology and innovations are moving too fast for any companies to decide to stay on track with each other.

Technology is not moving faster than it did on previous generations.

The fact console makers are reducing product lifecycles is an alarming sign of the console market decline, since it signals manifacturers are not bringing in more customers but they're sustaining the business by selling more stuff to the same people.

The life cycles aren't decreasing its that's they are supporting 2 systems at the same time. The base and the enhanced console.

DaveTheMinion13 said:
Not sure why people believe this dude........guy lies c9nstantly on twitter and attacks people for no reason

Can you link his lies? I'm not aware of that. But he has connections and has a pretty good track record for Microsoft related products.



Xbox One Z SSJ2 coming holiday 2019.



Being Backwards compatible dosent mean the end of generations.Consoles have been doing that for a long time.Assuming thats what he means.

Otherwise, it will be interesting to see what happens



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

DaveTheMinion13 said:
Not sure why people believe this dude........guy lies c9nstantly on twitter and attacks people for no reason

Pot meet kettle. 



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It'd be news if a new Xbox wasn't in development.



Turkish said:

Many a people will eat salt once Microsoft brings out games that won't be supported on their 2013 hardware. The Xbonex already brings Xbone games to 4k so what novelty would Xbox 4 add to that.

 

freebs2 said:

Technology is not moving faster than it did on previous generations.

The fact console makers are reducing product lifecycles is an alarming sign of the console market decline, since it signals manifacturers are not bringing in more customers but they're sustaining the business by selling more stuff to the same people.

What the hell are you talking about? No one is reducing product lifecycles, PS4 Slim makes up 80% of total PS4 sales, and only 40% of Pro users(20% of total sales) are upgrading from their PS4s. So if you can do 1+1 no way in hell is this about selling more stuff to the same people.

Lmao at "an alarming sign of the console market decline", 7 million PS4s sold in the first 5 months of this year deserves praise, I dunno whether you live on our timeline or just  a very pessimistic person.

caffeinade said:
Generations, Stay Dead!
Tech moves at an alarming rate, it is time this industry did too.

Yes, this industry should produce 100 million dollar AAA games on 12 month cycles because WOW a new cpu came out with some extra megahertz!

Generations just mean a cut off point to leave the shackles of ancient hardware behind. The concept of generations never died, not even on mobiles, you have games and apps that are not supported on older hardware.

Generations also created a place where the shackles of hardware dig in to the flesh of game design and visuals, where developers are forced to leave out parts of their games because it would not work on ten year old hardware.
If they want to keep doing generations, keep them to a max of 3 - 4 years.



How is it going to work for heavy cpu-bound games. The xbox one version is going to have less physics and worse AI? Or is it a MS plan to kill 3rd party on the PS5 because devoloping games for a bigger instalbase (X1 family) is better than for a completely new console (PS5)?



Turkish said:

Many a people will eat salt once Microsoft brings out games that won't be supported on their 2013 hardware. The Xbonex already brings Xbone games to 4k so what novelty would Xbox 4 add to that.

 

freebs2 said:

Technology is not moving faster than it did on previous generations.

The fact console makers are reducing product lifecycles is an alarming sign of the console market decline, since it signals manifacturers are not bringing in more customers but they're sustaining the business by selling more stuff to the same people.

What the hell are you talking about? No one is reducing product lifecycles, PS4 Slim makes up 80% of total PS4 sales, and only 40% of Pro users(20% of total sales) are upgrading from their PS4s. So if you can do 1+1 no way in hell is this about selling more stuff to the same people.

Lmao at "an alarming sign of the console market decline", 7 million PS4s sold in the first 5 months of this year deserves praise, I dunno whether you live on our timeline or just  a very pessimistic person.

Not denying PS4 is doing great, the problem is its great sales are coming at the expense of Xbox market shares. Xbox One is not even 4 years old but its sales are yet comparable to 3DS, an old tired system that is about to be replaced.

Of course Xbox One X is going be sold to current Xbox One user and likely even to PS4 current users. Since Xbox One X is a more expansive product for enthusiasts, it's very unlikey its prospect users haven't yet upgraded to current-gen consoles by now. It's nominally an mid-gen upgrade, in practice is more like a cross compatible next-gen console.



PEEPer0nni said:

How is it going to work for heavy cpu-bound games. The xbox one version is going to have less physics and worse AI? Or is it a MS plan to kill 3rd party on the PS5 because devoloping games for a bigger instalbase (X1 family) is better than for a completely new console (PS5)?

I've heard theories going around that MS will probably support 2 consoles at a time. Xbox One X and Xbox 4, Xbox 4 and Xbox 4 X, Xbox 4X and Xbox 5 etc.

For CPU heavy games I assume there will be some DX12 magic and heavy optimization.