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Dallinor on 12 July 2017
Jumpin said:
The Dark Knight was not any better than Batman Begins. The main reason people like it is because it was Heath Ledger's final movie. People liked Heath Ledger's performance is because he died not long before the film's release, a hammy rendition of a super villain isn't anything special; it's been done a lot before.

Nah the first is the weakest. It's actually so unmemorable, and I've seen it twice.

You have the boring origin story we already know, an interesting side character who gets shelved in Scarecrow, then Liam Nesson playing Ras Al' Ghul who just can't compare to the later villians. It sets up the second film nicely at the end though.

I like the second movie the most because although Ledger puts on a powerful performance, it also has the most interesting storyline, villians, best scenes in the trilogy- (bank heist, interrogation, dinner scene, ending) and some of the most memorable quotes. 

Also please, his performance is far from hammy. It's a towering performance. Done before a lot? What other super villain even comes close?



 

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h2ohno on 12 July 2017

Skyfall already seems like the 'Nolan' take on Bond.



Nogamez on 12 July 2017
Nem said:

I actually liked his Terminator movie. Was sad that didn't continue. I also liked the one after that, but reviewers didn't. I just don't get what people want...

Wait? What terminator movie did Nolan do?



Nem on 12 July 2017
Nogamez said:
Nem said:

I actually liked his Terminator movie. Was sad that didn't continue. I also liked the one after that, but reviewers didn't. I just don't get what people want...

Wait? What terminator movie did Nolan do?

Right... i best edit before everyone asks me the same question.

I had him confused with Christian bale.



Goodnightmoon on 12 July 2017
Nem said:
Nogamez said:

Wait? What terminator movie did Nolan do?

Right... i best edit before everyone asks me the same question.

I had him confused with Christian bale.

Christian Bale doesn't even make films 



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bigtakilla on 13 July 2017
fielding88 said:
bigtakilla said:

There's a certain level of visual storytelling that is required to say something is a masterclass of direction. The Dark Knight is like a great punk song. The four chords they play can be played perfectly and in perfect tune. The vocal pitch can be dead on, but I still wouldn't say the typical four chord punk song is a masterclass of songwriting.

 

*edit* And it's not that The Dark Knight was "too well made" as much as it was made extremely well with nothing standing out as exceptional.

 

I'll give an example too.

https://youtu.be/U1MnMA0TzGI

Watch this, and think about what the lighting, camera angles, colors, and blocking (essentially what's in the shot) are all telling you in this scene. That's masterclass directing.

I suspect what youre describing is closer in definition to masterclass cinematography or art direction. I agree with a lot of what you're saying, but it's assuming that TDK would be considered typical of its genre or typical of filmmaking in general, of which I'm not quite convinced based on its overall reception. Even in the superhero genre it's far different in style than many of its contemporaries. Also, sound plays an extremely large role in masterclass storytelling, which is an area I think Christopher Nolan definitely pays attention to (and excels) in his films. His mise-en-scene is stylistically as focused as any of the movies you've mentioned so far, and your example comes from a movie with more low-points than high. ROTJ is not a masterclass film by any means. If anything, it is a substandard sequel with some masterclass scenes, like the one you mentioned. TDK, on the other hand, would far exceed that movie in acting ability alone. But storytelling and sound play a huge role in masterclass film direction. Blade Runner with Deckard's narration is a craptacular (but pretty) film. Blade Runner without the narration is masterclass.


*edit* also, uh, OT: I think maybe when Daniel Craig leaves, Nolan should come along and test the waters a bit. But I don't think he should ever be in a 007 movie with Daniel Craig in it too. There's no need.

Masterclass storytelling I'll give you as far as script and performance (of which performance is the only thing you can credit the director with), but masterclass directing should be inclusive to masterfully using all the elements of visual storytelling as well as script and actor performance, which TDK doesn't accomplish.

 

*Sorry lots of editing, but want to make a clear and concise point* And yes, the camera man shoots the scenes, and the set designer and lighting techs are definitely to praise as well, but the director has his display and is responsible for setting up the shots, making sure the lighting is correct, and is basically primarily responsible for what is shot on film. He says action, and cut. That's why directors names are household, while the cinematographers, set designers, and lighting techs aren't. There job is to realize the directors vision. They just know how to run the equipment.



monocle_layton on 13 July 2017
twintail said:
Lol at ppl hating on batman trilogy now. First 2 are top tier , 3rd less so.

So in for Nolan as director for a Bond movie.

The third was definitely not as good as the first two, but it's still better than a lot of the garbage we see today.



Goodnightmoon on 13 July 2017
bigtakilla said:
fielding88 said:

I suspect what youre describing is closer in definition to masterclass cinematography or art direction. I agree with a lot of what you're saying, but it's assuming that TDK would be considered typical of its genre or typical of filmmaking in general, of which I'm not quite convinced based on its overall reception. Even in the superhero genre it's far different in style than many of its contemporaries. Also, sound plays an extremely large role in masterclass storytelling, which is an area I think Christopher Nolan definitely pays attention to (and excels) in his films. His mise-en-scene is stylistically as focused as any of the movies you've mentioned so far, and your example comes from a movie with more low-points than high. ROTJ is not a masterclass film by any means. If anything, it is a substandard sequel with some masterclass scenes, like the one you mentioned. TDK, on the other hand, would far exceed that movie in acting ability alone. But storytelling and sound play a huge role in masterclass film direction. Blade Runner with Deckard's narration is a craptacular (but pretty) film. Blade Runner without the narration is masterclass.


*edit* also, uh, OT: I think maybe when Daniel Craig leaves, Nolan should come along and test the waters a bit. But I don't think he should ever be in a 007 movie with Daniel Craig in it too. There's no need.

Masterclass storytelling I'll give you as far as script and performance (of which performance is the only thing you can credit the director with), but masterclass directing should be inclusive to masterfully using all the elements of visual storytelling as well as script and actor performance, which TDK doesn't accomplish.

Yes it does acomplish that, you keep confusing art direction with direction, The movie has a good art direction too though but the overall direction is just brilliant, there is a reason why is the best rated superhero/antihero movie of all time by both critics and audience.



bigtakilla on 13 July 2017
Goodnightmoon said:
bigtakilla said:

Masterclass storytelling I'll give you as far as script and performance (of which performance is the only thing you can credit the director with), but masterclass directing should be inclusive to masterfully using all the elements of visual storytelling as well as script and actor performance, which TDK doesn't accomplish.

Yes it does acomplish that, you keep confusing art direction with direction, The movie has a good art direction too though but the overall direction is just brilliant, there is a reason why is the best rated superhero/antihero movie of all time by both critics and audience.

Art direction is direction. Its primarily one and the same. Sorry I kept editing my last post to get my point across.

*edit* I'm gonna do it one more time sorry.... The camera man, the lighting techs, and the set designers are no more than tools for the director. When they all mix exceptionally that is masterclass directing.



RJ_Sizzle on 13 July 2017

I'm totally fine with this. I think it's more in his element as opposed to the faux-intellectual themes he tackles that don't really hold up when you look back at them. I'd think he'd do a tightly directed Bond flick, which is what the series can always use.