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This...  I would watch.



I would love that. But with Nintendo behind, there would be no creative freedom and it would probably end up being a big pile of crap.

So no.



maxleresistant said:
I would love that. But with Nintendo behind, there would be no creative freedom and it would probably end up being a big pile of crap.

So no.

Ah yes, because Nintendo is known for having no creative freedom and making big piles of crap. /s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okIlIvHnaNw

Clearly the work of a creativeless company!



"The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must" - Thoukydides

Alkibiádēs said:
maxleresistant said:
I would love that. But with Nintendo behind, there would be no creative freedom and it would probably end up being a big pile of crap.

So no.

Ah yes, because Nintendo is known for having no creative freedom and making big piles of crap. /s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okIlIvHnaNw

Clearly the work of a creativeless company!

That crappy intro is supposed to impress me?

Also, having creative freedom, and being creative are two different things. I have no doubt Nintendo employees have a lot of creativity, but I also think that creativity has been smothered for the past 15 years, Nintendo is widely known in the industry for that.

Though things looks better in the last two years, with Splatoon, Arms, Botw.

But do I believe that Nintendo is capable of producing a great Metroid Series? No, absolutely not. I believe a good Metroid TV show could only happen if Nintendo gave almost full creative freedom and doesn't interfere. I do not believe that Nintendo is capable to do a Metroid Tv show justice. They proved it with Other M and Federation Forces.



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maxleresistant said:
Alkibiádēs said:

Ah yes, because Nintendo is known for having no creative freedom and making big piles of crap. /s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okIlIvHnaNw

Clearly the work of a creativeless company!

That crappy intro is supposed to impress me?

Also, having creative freedom, and being creative are two different things. I have no doubt Nintendo employees have a lot of creativity, but I also think that creativity has been smothered for the past 15 years, Nintendo is widely known in the industry for that.

Though things looks better in the last two years, with Splatoon, Arms, Botw.

But do I believe that Nintendo is capable of producing a great Metroid Series? No, absolutely not. I believe a good Metroid TV show could only happen if Nintendo gave almost full creative freedom and doesn't interfere. I do not believe that Nintendo is capable to do a Metroid Tv show justice. They proved it with Other M and Federation Forces.

You failed to prove that Nintendo allows no creative freedom. All you proved is that you're a bit of a nasty forum poster when you're unable to argue a point.



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Jumpin said:
maxleresistant said:

That crappy intro is supposed to impress me?

Also, having creative freedom, and being creative are two different things. I have no doubt Nintendo employees have a lot of creativity, but I also think that creativity has been smothered for the past 15 years, Nintendo is widely known in the industry for that.

Though things looks better in the last two years, with Splatoon, Arms, Botw.

But do I believe that Nintendo is capable of producing a great Metroid Series? No, absolutely not. I believe a good Metroid TV show could only happen if Nintendo gave almost full creative freedom and doesn't interfere. I do not believe that Nintendo is capable to do a Metroid Tv show justice. They proved it with Other M and Federation Forces.

You failed to prove that Nintendo allows no creative freedom. All you proved is that you're a bit of a nasty forum poster when you're unable to argue a point.

It's funny because I stayed on point, and actually tried to discuss it, whereas you just attacked me and added nothing valuable to the debate.

I may be nasty, but at least I know what an argument is.



maxleresistant said:
Alkibiádēs said:

Ah yes, because Nintendo is known for having no creative freedom and making big piles of crap. /s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okIlIvHnaNw

Clearly the work of a creativeless company!

That crappy intro is supposed to impress me?

Also, having creative freedom, and being creative are two different things. I have no doubt Nintendo employees have a lot of creativity, but I also think that creativity has been smothered for the past 15 years, Nintendo is widely known in the industry for that.

Though things looks better in the last two years, with Splatoon, Arms, Botw.

But do I believe that Nintendo is capable of producing a great Metroid Series? No, absolutely not. I believe a good Metroid TV show could only happen if Nintendo gave almost full creative freedom and doesn't interfere. I do not believe that Nintendo is capable to do a Metroid Tv show justice. They proved it with Other M and Federation Forces.

So they proved they can't handle Metroid themselves because of two games made by third party developers? Do you even hear what you're saying?

Oh and maybe it's your taste that's crap? ;) That intro is great. Plenty of people love it. Internet is filled with fan art of Marina already. 

Yeah, games like Super Mario Galaxy are creatively defunct. Dude, you simply don't make sense at all. I guess you don't consider the Prime trilogy to be good either, considering it was made in the last 15 years. If there's one company that still has plenty of creativity, it's Nintendo. 



"The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must" - Thoukydides

Mar1217 said:
maxleresistant said:
I would love that. But with Nintendo behind, there would be no creative freedom and it would probably end up being a big pile of crap.

So no.

Yep. That's exactly what happened with Mario + Rabbids: Kingdom Battle !

... Oh wait

Do I have to explain everything here?

Mario + Rabbids and a Metroid TV show are two different things.

First of all, one is a video game, Nintendo knows how to make a video game. And you can bet your ass they gave a lot of attention to Mario + Rabbids. But in that case it's a good thing. Because they know what they are talking about.

A Metroid TV show is not a video game. Nintendo doesn't know how to make a good TV show,  and they're previous tries where they gave freedom to producers, like in the 90's, resulted in horrible TV shows and movies, and since then Nintendo never trusted anybody with using their IPs (again talking about TV shows and movies here, not games)

So no, I do not believe that they will give Adi Shankar and his team the creative freedom they need. You think Adi Shankar is the first producer who tried? 

 

You want proof of all I said? here. Read that

 

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/12/28/whatever-happened-to-the-metroid-movie



Alkibiádēs said:
maxleresistant said:

That crappy intro is supposed to impress me?

Also, having creative freedom, and being creative are two different things. I have no doubt Nintendo employees have a lot of creativity, but I also think that creativity has been smothered for the past 15 years, Nintendo is widely known in the industry for that.

Though things looks better in the last two years, with Splatoon, Arms, Botw.

But do I believe that Nintendo is capable of producing a great Metroid Series? No, absolutely not. I believe a good Metroid TV show could only happen if Nintendo gave almost full creative freedom and doesn't interfere. I do not believe that Nintendo is capable to do a Metroid Tv show justice. They proved it with Other M and Federation Forces.

So they proved they can't handle Metroid themselves because of two games made by third party developers? Do you even hear what you're saying?

Oh and maybe it's your taste that's crap? ;) That intro is great. Plenty of people love it. Internet is filled with fan art of Marina already. 

Yeah, games like Super Mario Galaxy are creatively defunct. Dude, you simply don't make sense at all. I guess you don't consider the Prime trilogy to be good either, considering it was made in the last 15 years. If there's one company that still has plenty of creativity, it's Nintendo. 

First of all, those two games were contracted works, nor Team Ninja or Next Level Games had any creative freedom on those games, Nintendo had a final say on everything. Also Other M's director is actually a Nintendo employee, and it was his decisions and poor writing skills that made Other M so bad, , Kensuke Tanabe producer of the Prime trilogy, also produced Federation Forces. I don't know where you got the idea that a studio just get the license from Nintendo and do whatever they want with it, that does not work like that at all.

That intro is great I guess, if you like stuffs like Vocaloid or AKB48, but well, I'll let history decides who has poor tastes. But I'm not betting on the people drawing fan arts of Marina.

As for your last point, again you are mixing creative freedom and creativity, Metroid prime games were great and creative games, but they also left Retro Studios employees with a lot of frustations. Nintendo is widely known for being control freaks.

And like I explained to someone else, a video game is not a TV show. I believe Nintendo can smother a third party studio into making a good game, but I don't believe Nintendo can smother a TV production company into making a good TV show. I also don't believe any videogame company can do that. But also don't believe that Nintendo can just get out of the way like Konami did with Castlevania on Netflix

 

Go read that too http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/12/28/whatever-happened-to-the-metroid-movie