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Nautilus said:
deskpro2k3 said:

pardon me my good fellow vgcharter, what part of my hard facts is not civil? Besides that, the switch had nothing to do with my original statement anyways, I was pointing out that he is right about third party devs having a tough time with Nintendo.

Then discuss about third parties and whatnot, but dont make this a PS4 vs Switch discussion.Dont make this a "my console of choice is better because of reasons and yours sucks because of reasons" especially when those said reasons are not made up by the whole story.

 

hard facts is not a versus discussion; and holyshit at all the rest of that post wow. If you cant keep it civil, please just dont comment.

you're posting out of context, and the guy I replied to already moved on. You should really go back and see what exectly we were talking about instead of butting in.



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deskpro2k3 said:
Nautilus said:

Then discuss about third parties and whatnot, but dont make this a PS4 vs Switch discussion.Dont make this a "my console of choice is better because of reasons and yours sucks because of reasons" especially when those said reasons are not made up by the whole story.

hard facts is not a versus discussion; and holyshit at all the rest of that post wow. If you cant keep it civil, please just dont comment.

What you say is not hard facts "buddy", nor are you innocent on this.Just as a note, Akiha is also not innocent.And I mean, you are just answering to me, the one trying to just calm your nerves.If your facts are so spot on, why dont you answer back to the ones that quoted you presenting actual facts?

I just want that, in this forum, to people have actual discussion, and not be offended by sonething that is true or not and start trowing insults left and right.But maybe its too much to expect from you.And with this, I take my leave.



I don't think what he said was bad. I just thought it was silly: I'm pretty sure what killed Iwata was complications from the tumor, not his struggles with the company...



Nautilus said:
deskpro2k3 said:

hard facts is not a versus discussion; and holyshit at all the rest of that post wow. If you cant keep it civil, please just dont comment.

What you say is not hard facts "buddy", nor are you innocent on this.Just as a note, Akiha is also not innocent.And I mean, you are just answering to me, the one trying to just calm your nerves.If your facts are so spot on, why dont you answer back to the ones that quoted you presenting actual facts?

I just want that, in this forum, to people have actual discussion, and not be offended by sonething that is true or not and start trowing insults left and right.But maybe its too much to expect from you.And with this, I take my leave.

Oh I'm sorry, you're one of those none believers. Well, you're telling me to not talk about PS4 and NS sales, and yet you're asking me right here why I don't answer back at the ones that quoted me. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

What is more entertaining is that you have not pointed out any examples of uncivil comments coming from any of my post, or even back track to what led to that discussion in the first place. This is not how you have a constructive well thought-out discussion buddy.



Alkibiádēs said:
deskpro2k3 said:

 if you want to get technical lets see how far that success goes with minimal third party support. I mean look at the charts, PS4 is already out selling the NS globally.

Vgchartz are just made up numbers and Switch is suffering from supply constraints. Look on Amazon, they just got a re-stock. Switch is dominating despite being much more expensive than the PS4. 

Just because Sony can't support a system without third party support doesn't mean Nintendo can't. 

Of course it is. Not only did it come out recently, but it has been facing massive shortages. The second people see it's in stock, they buy it. Same thing happened with ps4 for months. Hell even NES mini sold out immediately. Real demand will become more apparent when they sort out supply.



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naruball said:
Alkibiádēs said:

Vgchartz are just made up numbers and Switch is suffering from supply constraints. Look on Amazon, they just got a re-stock. Switch is dominating despite being much more expensive than the PS4. 

Just because Sony can't support a system without third party support doesn't mean Nintendo can't. 

Of course it is. Not only did it come out recently, but it has been facing massive shortages. The second people see it's in stock, they buy it. Same thing happened with ps4 for months. Hell even NES mini sold out immediately. Real demand will become more apparent when they sort out supply.

It came out 4 months ago. By this time the Xbox One sales already dropped off a cliff and the same can be said about Wii U and PS Vita (which never had great sales to begin with). 

Of course NES Mini sold out, nostalgia is a powerful thing. SNES Mini, if stocked properly, could outsell Xbox One and more this holiday season. 



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Alkibiádēs said:
naruball said:

Of course it is. Not only did it come out recently, but it has been facing massive shortages. The second people see it's in stock, they buy it. Same thing happened with ps4 for months. Hell even NES mini sold out immediately. Real demand will become more apparent when they sort out supply.

It came out 4 months ago. By this time the Xbox One sales already dropped off a cliff and the same can be said about Wii U and PS Vita (which never had great sales to begin with). 

Of course NES Mini sold out, nostalgia is a powerful thing. SNES Mini, if stocked properly, could outsell Xbox One and more this holiday season. 

Yes, but compare the NES mini's 4th year with Xbox one's fourth year and you'll see why your comparison of NS with ps4 is problematic. 

Also, what shortages did wiiu and psvita face?
Shortages do help create hype, hence the sales of amiibos when they weren't in stock with when they were and most people stopped caring.



naruball said:
Alkibiádēs said:

It came out 4 months ago. By this time the Xbox One sales already dropped off a cliff and the same can be said about Wii U and PS Vita (which never had great sales to begin with). 

Of course NES Mini sold out, nostalgia is a powerful thing. SNES Mini, if stocked properly, could outsell Xbox One and more this holiday season. 

Yes, but compare the NES mini's 4th year with Xbox one's fourth year and you'll see why your comparison of NS with ps4 is problematic. 

Also, what shortages did wiiu and psvita face?
Shortages do help create hype, hence the sales of amiibos when they weren't in stock with when they were and most people stopped caring.

The problem with arguing about shortages creating hype is that the numbers themselves can show the is genuine hype with out them, NS with shortages is selling at PS4 levels a platform that itself is selling beyond well. This highlights genuinely that the is high demand, looking at the numbers on this site NS passed 4m back in May and would passed 5m heading to 6m right now, that is on par with other high demand platforms.

Vita and WiiU didn't have shortages simply because of one fact they weren't anywhere near the demand the Switch has right now, shortages don't create demand and hype it's the other way around.



ClassicGamingWizzz said:

 

RavenXtra said:

How so?

I took mario 64 and sunshine etc, but yes, fuck the oddworld devs for milking.

They have more than Mario as an IP and just introduced 3 new IP's this year alone. Lorne is literally relying on 1 IP and keeps re-releasing it Oddworld. Also most Mario games while the same IP are different.



SegataSanshiro said:
ClassicGamingWizzz said:

 

I took mario 64 and sunshine etc, but yes, fuck the oddworld devs for milking.

They have more than Mario as an IP and just introduced 3 new IP's this year alone. Lorne is literally relying on 1 IP and keeps re-releasing it Oddworld. Also most Mario games while the same IP are different.

Nintendo have a shit ton of studios  working for them of course they have other IPs, they are one of the console makers, Oddworld studio is small studio.

And they are not releasing the exact same game over the years the same way super mario bros 2 is different than 1 and so one.